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let's get this party started #NBPy

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  • chrisjrn@social.coopC chrisjrn@social.coop

    @glyph please, I only name-checked your dad

    (# things that read like shit-posts but aren't)

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    #26

    @chrisjrn @glyph if you name check someone's dad, but @MaggieFero initially mishears and tags the someone, who was the name-check for???

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    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

      Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

      glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #27

      Extremely valuable reminder about "simply" and "just": this language (along with its pals; "basically" "obviously", "of course") isn't merely stylistic noise; it sends a specific message:

      "This should be easy"

      or, in other words:

      "If this isn't easy, it's your fault"

      This is implicitly an attack on the reader.

      #NBPy

      glyph@mastodon.socialG c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC andrybak@mastodon.socialA neuhaus@mastodon.acm.orgN fxchip@hachyderm.ioF 6 Replies Last reply
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      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

        Extremely valuable reminder about "simply" and "just": this language (along with its pals; "basically" "obviously", "of course") isn't merely stylistic noise; it sends a specific message:

        "This should be easy"

        or, in other words:

        "If this isn't easy, it's your fault"

        This is implicitly an attack on the reader.

        #NBPy

        glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #28

        TIL about this all-time banger https://lookitup.baby #NBPy

        cthos@mastodon.cthos.devC glyph@mastodon.socialG wuest@hachyderm.ioW 3 Replies Last reply
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        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

          TIL about this all-time banger https://lookitup.baby #NBPy

          cthos@mastodon.cthos.devC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #29

          @glyph Ian still has that in their profile over on bsky. 😁

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          • cthos@mastodon.cthos.devC cthos@mastodon.cthos.dev

            @glyph Ian still has that in their profile over on bsky. 😁

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            #30

            @glyph sorry I meant "that is their handle"

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              I love talks that, as a 25 year Python veteran, have the ability make me say to myself “wait, does that even work” with less than 10 lines of code

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              #31

              @glyph wait what even is this slide 👀

              *fires up interpreter*

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              • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                TIL about this all-time banger https://lookitup.baby #NBPy

                glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #32

                Now Alla Barbalat is talking about using Python to evaluate game balance in the context of a board game.

                For me personally this is such a fun and refreshing look at a structured approach to the *basics* of game design. A million years ago when I worked in the game industry, so much of what designers were talking about (i.e., at GDC, but also elsewhere) were esoteric, lost-in-the-weeds explanations of very specific problems. This feels very much like the missing piece of that puzzle! #NBPy

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                • mikeymikey@hachyderm.ioM mikeymikey@hachyderm.io

                  @glyph wait what even is this slide 👀

                  *fires up interpreter*

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                  #33

                  @mikeymikey hopefully engendering some FOMO for next year

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                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                    Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

                    bweller@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #34

                    @glyph that does sound like a two-step of coercion and gaslighting being relabeled as 'consent'

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                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                      I love talks that, as a 25 year Python veteran, have the ability make me say to myself “wait, does that even work” with less than 10 lines of code

                      rmi@cloudisland.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #35

                      @glyph python is a subset of words, and as we know, words are hard.

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                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                        Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

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                        #36

                        @glyph

                        Absolutely

                        This is also used in healthcare

                        And now, in the use of AI transcripts for healthcare

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                        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                          Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

                          maddiem4@raphus.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #37

                          @glyph This kind of "consent" structure is unfortunately nothing new - I felt a bit like this recently signing on an apartment rental, and we all know the reputation record labels made for themselves pretty much from the start of them existing at all.

                          Where tech really steps in to make things worse is that:

                          1. Almost all tech that people directly interact with, acts like this.*
                          2. A lot more of our lives involve tech now.

                          It's not that different from the push to financialize everything. There are rich people who want every aspect of human existence to happen in spaces that contribute to their own wealth and power.

                          * Tech that is, not coincidentally, almost all proprietary on the outer edge.

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                          • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                            Now Alla Barbalat is talking about using Python to evaluate game balance in the context of a board game.

                            For me personally this is such a fun and refreshing look at a structured approach to the *basics* of game design. A million years ago when I worked in the game industry, so much of what designers were talking about (i.e., at GDC, but also elsewhere) were esoteric, lost-in-the-weeds explanations of very specific problems. This feels very much like the missing piece of that puzzle! #NBPy

                            glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #38

                            A whirlwind tour through an autobiographical talk from @bobmonsour which has included the detail that I believe he said he programmed a device with 112 bytes of application memory (?!), a skill that I am guessing will be useful in the modern day given current RAM prices #NBPy

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                            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                              A whirlwind tour through an autobiographical talk from @bobmonsour which has included the detail that I believe he said he programmed a device with 112 bytes of application memory (?!), a skill that I am guessing will be useful in the modern day given current RAM prices #NBPy

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                              #39

                              @glyph @bobmonsour ooooof

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                              • skimbrel@tech.lgbtS skimbrel@tech.lgbt

                                @glyph @bobmonsour ooooof

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                                #40

                                @skimbrel @bobmonsour "why are you booing me, I'm right"

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                                • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                  A whirlwind tour through an autobiographical talk from @bobmonsour which has included the detail that I believe he said he programmed a device with 112 bytes of application memory (?!), a skill that I am guessing will be useful in the modern day given current RAM prices #NBPy

                                  glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #41

                                  If you're enjoying my somewhat disjointed attempt at liveblogging North Bay Python here, I'm mostly doing this to try to keep my famously discursive attention focused.

                                  If you want a *good* liveblog, I have no idea how @MaggieFero manages it but their posts are the gold standard

                                  #NBPy

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                                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                    If you're enjoying my somewhat disjointed attempt at liveblogging North Bay Python here, I'm mostly doing this to try to keep my famously discursive attention focused.

                                    If you want a *good* liveblog, I have no idea how @MaggieFero manages it but their posts are the gold standard

                                    #NBPy

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                                    @glyph Thank you! I also do it to keep my attention focused and to make sure I'm understanding what's going on (because if I get it wrong somebody usually replies!)

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                                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                      If you're enjoying my somewhat disjointed attempt at liveblogging North Bay Python here, I'm mostly doing this to try to keep my famously discursive attention focused.

                                      If you want a *good* liveblog, I have no idea how @MaggieFero manages it but their posts are the gold standard

                                      #NBPy

                                      glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #43

                                      Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

                                      miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM glyph@mastodon.socialG f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF 3 Replies Last reply
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                                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                        Now I'm learning about the lesson that users have learned from yes/no "consent" modals is that they just always have to say "yes" or the computer will deny them critical access to functionality that they need in order to perform their desired task, complete assigned work from an employer or school, or even get life-critical medication. I'm not feeling like a feature whose perceived function is 'you have to say yes; now that you said yes it's your fault' should be referred to as 'consent' #NBPy

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                                        #44

                                        @glyph Because it's coercion, and coercion by definition is the antithesis of consent.

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                                        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                          Now listening to Freya Bhushan Mehta asking the age-old question: what code should be in Python, what should be in C++ (or your compiled language of choice)? #NBPy

                                          miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #45

                                          @glyph I'm curious what the conclusion of that ends up being.

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