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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    The answer to problems in sociotechnical systems is not always "more software", "better software" or "open source software".
    A lot of the time the best solution is _less software_ and sometimes even _no software_.

    nickynah@rebel.arN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @tante oh you mean we don’t need 400 calendar applications that work exactly the same and use the same standard but are front different companies and don’t interact well with each other? I’m appalled by your comment

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      The answer to problems in sociotechnical systems is not always "more software", "better software" or "open source software".
      A lot of the time the best solution is _less software_ and sometimes even _no software_.

      dasgrueneblatt@wien.rocksD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @tante yes

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        The answer to problems in sociotechnical systems is not always "more software", "better software" or "open source software".
        A lot of the time the best solution is _less software_ and sometimes even _no software_.

        shnepo@theforkiverse.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #18

        @tante yeah feature creep is a big problem. Mostly caused because of capitalism IMO.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          The answer to problems in sociotechnical systems is not always "more software", "better software" or "open source software".
          A lot of the time the best solution is _less software_ and sometimes even _no software_.

          glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @tante @SnoopJ “this SaaS could have been an email”

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          • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

            @tante 100%, but also feels like a bit of a personal attack

            glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            @c0dec0dec0de @tante look, we each know what we did, and maybe we should just admit it

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              @tante @SnoopJ “this SaaS could have been an email”

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              #21

              @glyph @tante "this DHCP server could have been RFC 2322"

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              • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                @glyph @tante "this DHCP server could have been RFC 2322"

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                @SnoopJ @tante (me opening the bag labeled "RFC 2322")

                I don't know what I expected

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  The answer to problems in sociotechnical systems is not always "more software", "better software" or "open source software".
                  A lot of the time the best solution is _less software_ and sometimes even _no software_.

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                  @tante you can't go wrong with coffee, pen and paper.

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                  • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                    @glyph @tante "this DHCP server could have been RFC 2322"

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                    @SnoopJ @glyph @tante this ethernet cable could have been an avian carrier

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      The answer to problems in sociotechnical systems is not always "more software", "better software" or "open source software".
                      A lot of the time the best solution is _less software_ and sometimes even _no software_.

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                      @tante Never automate anything before you have experience doing it manually.

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                      • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                        @glyph @tante "this DHCP server could have been RFC 2322"

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                        @SnoopJ @glyph @tante New and classic at the set time xD

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          The answer to problems in sociotechnical systems is not always "more software", "better software" or "open source software".
                          A lot of the time the best solution is _less software_ and sometimes even _no software_.

                          endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @tante
                          If that's not a nail, why did you hire a guy with a hammer?

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                          • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                            @glyph @tante "this DHCP server could have been RFC 2322"

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                            @SnoopJ @glyph @tante photo by @th. I was one of those who made that DHCP server

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                            • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

                              @SnoopJ @glyph @tante this ethernet cable could have been an avian carrier

                              ffeth@hostux.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @aburka What if the avian carrier has a string attached to its leg?

                              @SnoopJ @glyph @tante

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                              • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                @glyph @tante "this DHCP server could have been RFC 2322"

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                                @SnoopJ @glyph @tante #PegDHCP was peak #Autoconfig!

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                                • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                  @SnoopJ @glyph @tante photo by @th. I was one of those who made that DHCP server

                                  lady_alys@hachyderm.ioL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @quixoticgeek

                                  I love it! I want to share that image or something similar with attribution. Is there a link you'd recommend? If not, I'll share the image toot and your toot.

                                  @SnoopJ @glyph @tante @th

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                                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                    @SnoopJ @tante (me opening the bag labeled "RFC 2322")

                                    I don't know what I expected

                                    aslakr@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @glyph @SnoopJ @tante No peg-dhcpv6?!

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                                    • lady_alys@hachyderm.ioL lady_alys@hachyderm.io

                                      @quixoticgeek

                                      I love it! I want to share that image or something similar with attribution. Is there a link you'd recommend? If not, I'll share the image toot and your toot.

                                      @SnoopJ @glyph @tante @th

                                      th@social.v.stT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @lady_alys @SnoopJ @glyph @tante my original photo is CC-BY-NC-SA https://www.flickr.com/photos/osr/38318347355/ although @quixoticgeek is the original rights holder of the actual printout.

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                                      • th@social.v.stT th@social.v.st

                                        @lady_alys @SnoopJ @glyph @tante my original photo is CC-BY-NC-SA https://www.flickr.com/photos/osr/38318347355/ although @quixoticgeek is the original rights holder of the actual printout.

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                                        @th @quixoticgeek delighted to have the context for the image filled in, thank you both!

                                        @lady_alys @glyph @tante

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                                        • th@social.v.stT th@social.v.st

                                          @lady_alys @SnoopJ @glyph @tante my original photo is CC-BY-NC-SA https://www.flickr.com/photos/osr/38318347355/ although @quixoticgeek is the original rights holder of the actual printout.

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                                          @th @lady_alys @SnoopJ @glyph @tante you can consider the print out cc-by-sa too

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