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One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

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  • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

    @zeri At least we're not doing the latter »that openly«, agreed. Coming from Germany myself I must admit though "why" Israel is special there.

    Yet Israel is definitely a democracy, ISIS isn't (or wasn't) even a real state and definitely, like Iran, not democratic at all. Maybe that makes a difference as well? That it currently is led by extrem rightwinger people, extreme fundamentalists and (I think/guess) rather corrupt politicians (Netanyahu?) worries me too, yes!

    @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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    @zeri Therefore I'd wish the state to change its political orientaition (like I do wish the same for the IMHO way too far right leaning politics in current Germany.) Yet I do not wish to deny its right to exist in the first place. (You didn't say so but that demand from Hamas and others is IMHO at the root of this whole debacle.)
    @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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    • yonkeltron@jawns.clubY yonkeltron@jawns.club

      @ojelabii @zeri@chaos.social @streetartutopia peace is the answer. Simply.

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      @yonkeltron Peace is, or would be the (best) answer, yes! But … it's not easy, not really … unfortunately! — Yet still we shall try, IMHO
      @streetartutopia

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      • henry@radikal.socialH henry@radikal.social

        @streetartutopia hate it when the IDF bombs my 1x1 red wooden outhouse and turns it into a 4x5 concrete ruin

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        @henry

        @streetartutopia
        If you use AI pictures, please mark them as AI.

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        • quinn9282@mas.toQ quinn9282@mas.to

          @streetartutopia Is that bottom image real? It seems absurdly implausible that it could've been taken at the exact same camera angle, height, and location as the first image given the immense destruction that has occurred around where the camera is sitting at? A reverse image search also only turned up a few X accounts reposting it with no source.

          (Note: I'm only questioning the validity of that particular image, not the destruction that has actually occurred in Gaza as a whole)

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          @Quinn9282 @streetartutopia

          The Top Image (Before): Captured by Mustafa Thraya, a prominent Palestinian drone journalist who extensively documented Gaza's landscape from the air before he was tragically killed in an airstrike in January 2024.

          The Bottom Image (After): Captured from the exact same flight path by photojournalist Mohammad Ismail Shamallkh to document the extent of the structural destruction along the coastline.

          Source: Google

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          • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

            @ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia yes, yes you did. But do you see how I am concerned that my taxes are used to support one crime making me complicit in my view? We couldn't even put sanctions on a few violent settlers until Orban was out of office. When it comes to Iran my government has sanctions ready to go any time. With Israel we literally sabotage any effort, and as a citizen I bear the moral responsibility, it's democracy. you are not in the clear just because you don't like it.

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            @zeri I »do« see how you're concerned there, yes. That I must admit!
            @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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            • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

              One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

              Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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              @streetartutopia
              This seems to be IA generated...

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              • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                @zeri Therefore I'd wish the state to change its political orientaition (like I do wish the same for the IMHO way too far right leaning politics in current Germany.) Yet I do not wish to deny its right to exist in the first place. (You didn't say so but that demand from Hamas and others is IMHO at the root of this whole debacle.)
                @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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                @ojelabii @gkrnours @streetartutopia If law isn't applied equally to all offenders it isn't just. And law without justice is tyrany. Just ask yourself what consequences a settler has to fear if they start beating a old woman to death on camera (looks just like Hamas to me) and compare it to the fate of a palestinian attacking an illegal settlement in the same neighborhood. The IDF kills the one and dismantles his entire street while the other goes home and never sees the inside of a court room.

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                  @rkd993 True, it didn't started with October the 7th. It started with the Nazis: https://isgap.org/flashpoint/from-hitler-to-hamas-a-genealogy-of-evil/
                  @gkrnours @zeri @streetartutopia

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                  • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                    @ifrauding
                    The best thing about your comment - it is not clear to me which you are calling a war and which you are calling "planned industrialized annihilation of people".

                    The latter fits both. Though I would argue that WW2 was more of a war than the genocide in Gaza, but you sound like someone who would call tanks and fighter jets murdering unarmed civilians a war, no matter how proud that would make Joseph Goebbels.

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                    @leeloo
                    Okay, I'm dome here.

                    #FediAntisemitism

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                    • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                      @rkd993 True, it didn't started with October the 7th. It started with the Nazis: https://isgap.org/flashpoint/from-hitler-to-hamas-a-genealogy-of-evil/
                      @gkrnours @zeri @streetartutopia

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                      @ojelabii @rkd993 @gkrnours @streetartutopia yes, yes indeed. Do you refer to the Shoa or the Haavara agreement? The brits had a hand in it too but we, the Germans, definitely did the lion share of making the Middle East what it is today. Thing is I don't think the Palestinians should pay the price for Germanys crimes ... seems a little unfair you know.

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                      • tillbtc@mastodon.socialT tillbtc@mastodon.social

                        @Quinn9282 @streetartutopia

                        The Top Image (Before): Captured by Mustafa Thraya, a prominent Palestinian drone journalist who extensively documented Gaza's landscape from the air before he was tragically killed in an airstrike in January 2024.

                        The Bottom Image (After): Captured from the exact same flight path by photojournalist Mohammad Ismail Shamallkh to document the extent of the structural destruction along the coastline.

                        Source: Google

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                        @tillbtc @Quinn9282 @streetartutopia

                        Could you provide a link, please? Google is not a source.

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                        • tillbtc@mastodon.socialT tillbtc@mastodon.social

                          @Quinn9282 @streetartutopia

                          The Top Image (Before): Captured by Mustafa Thraya, a prominent Palestinian drone journalist who extensively documented Gaza's landscape from the air before he was tragically killed in an airstrike in January 2024.

                          The Bottom Image (After): Captured from the exact same flight path by photojournalist Mohammad Ismail Shamallkh to document the extent of the structural destruction along the coastline.

                          Source: Google

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                          @tillbtc @streetartutopia I searched but I'm not able to find anything about a photojournalist under the name of "Mohammad Ismail Shamallkh" (or similar). Do you have an actual source to back that up? If you only got this information from Gemini, consider it pretty useless at best.

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                          • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                            @streetartutopia I think it very likely that the above image is AI-generated, as it's just too perfect. I highly recommend you take down this post. There's plenty of real images of the genocide in Gaza to use.

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                            @thejessiekirk @streetartutopia @Quinn9282 @Parmon

                            And what proof did the billionaire corporate radicalized overlord supporters need for rioting Jan 6th per #8647 saying election was rigged? ...pizzagate, left is evil, when in fact, the radicalized right dystopian billionaires are worse than evil...etc?

                            Who cares, when we know of the genocide that in fact did occur? Making this atrocity out as AI slop dismisses the premise and is just as evil.

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                            • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                              One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                              Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                              @streetartutopia Server rules "Do not share information widely-known to be false and misleading
                              False and misleading information and links from low-quality sources may not be posted, especially if they are likely to mislead or confuse others or endanger their safety."

                              @remindme in 48 so I can check for a correction before reporting this account

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                              • susibryant@mastodon.socialS susibryant@mastodon.social

                                @henry

                                @streetartutopia
                                If you use AI pictures, please mark them as AI.

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                                @Susibryant @henry @streetartutopia@mastodon.online Better yet, just don't use AI pictures in the first place.

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                                • quinn9282@mas.toQ quinn9282@mas.to

                                  @streetartutopia Is that bottom image real? It seems absurdly implausible that it could've been taken at the exact same camera angle, height, and location as the first image given the immense destruction that has occurred around where the camera is sitting at? A reverse image search also only turned up a few X accounts reposting it with no source.

                                  (Note: I'm only questioning the validity of that particular image, not the destruction that has actually occurred in Gaza as a whole)

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                                  @Quinn9282 @streetartutopia

                                  I wonder where the rubble of the three buildings left to the mosque has gone.

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                                  • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                                    @streetartutopia

                                    @MarianneTiel
                                    @thejessiekirk
                                    @pa27

                                    can anyone verify this particular image ?
                                    I did some google searches and failed, but that doesn't mean that much

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                                    @failedLyndonLaRouchite @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @thejessiekirk @pa27

                                    Did you have a look on Google earth ?

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                                    • gergovie@piaille.frG gergovie@piaille.fr

                                      @failedLyndonLaRouchite @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @thejessiekirk @pa27

                                      Did you have a look on Google earth ?

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                                      @Gergovie @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @thejessiekirk @pa27 perhaps you ca do that and get back to us ?

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                                      • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                                        @ojelabii @gkrnours @streetartutopia If law isn't applied equally to all offenders it isn't just. And law without justice is tyrany. Just ask yourself what consequences a settler has to fear if they start beating a old woman to death on camera (looks just like Hamas to me) and compare it to the fate of a palestinian attacking an illegal settlement in the same neighborhood. The IDF kills the one and dismantles his entire street while the other goes home and never sees the inside of a court room.

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                                        @zeri Oh, I'm wholeheartedly against illegal settlements from Israel, always have been. But again: Being against illegal acts (and politicians ignoring or even supporting those) are not the same, as denying a state its right to exist! If you want me to protest against illegal settlers in Israel, I'll happily join you as — as I'm sure — many Israeli would.

                                        @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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                                        • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                                          @zeri Oh, I'm wholeheartedly against illegal settlements from Israel, always have been. But again: Being against illegal acts (and politicians ignoring or even supporting those) are not the same, as denying a state its right to exist! If you want me to protest against illegal settlers in Israel, I'll happily join you as — as I'm sure — many Israeli would.

                                          @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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                                          @zeri Yet I'll support Israels right to exist and to defend itself as well. Where defense turned into warcrime, I'd ask that to be judged as I'd ask other warcrimes in the world to face justice as well. If justice is not given evenly and fairly, I ask the justice system to be fixed though, rather than to ask this or that state to stop existing.
                                          @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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