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  • vampirdaddy@chaos.socialV vampirdaddy@chaos.social

    @SecurityWriter @0xabad1dea

    Or they select very carefully upon the calculation:
    it's a difference if you count ALL services working and ANY disruption, even that of a single service/server as fail, or whether you count a single server failure against the total number.

    If you have 100 (virtual) servers you can keep one server swicthed off ALL THE TIME (0% individual availability) and still have 99% availability overall.

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    @vampirdaddy @SecurityWriter @0xabad1dea I once worked at a company I liked that said "anyone promising 100% uptime is lying"

    They got bought out and ruined by a company that said "100% UPTIME*" on the wall

    and in tiny tiny writing "*core network uptime" way down in small print in the basement

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    • kay@meow.socialK kay@meow.social

      @vampirdaddy @SecurityWriter @0xabad1dea I once worked at a company I liked that said "anyone promising 100% uptime is lying"

      They got bought out and ruined by a company that said "100% UPTIME*" on the wall

      and in tiny tiny writing "*core network uptime" way down in small print in the basement

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      #52

      @vampirdaddy @SecurityWriter @0xabad1dea Because, technically, they had a very large core network and they'd had a COMPLETE nationwide network outage.

      Of course this bullshit did not fly anytime they had a LOCAL outage.

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      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

        NINETY DAYS

        NINETY INCIDENTS

        NINETY PERCENT

        YOU PAID FOR ALL FIVE NINES BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE

        #github

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        #53

        @0xabad1dea a incident a day keeps the customers away

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        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

          NINETY DAYS

          NINETY INCIDENTS

          NINETY PERCENT

          YOU PAID FOR ALL FIVE NINES BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE

          #github

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          #54

          @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange 9.9999% is also five nines

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          • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

            NINETY DAYS

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            YOU PAID FOR ALL FIVE NINES BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE

            #github

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            @0xabad1dea Micro$oft turned MicroSlop

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            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

              NINETY DAYS

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              YOU PAID FOR ALL FIVE NINES BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE

              #github

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              @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange Why do people still put their code into that crap site?

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              • eri@mk.moth.zoneE eri@mk.moth.zone

                @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange mfw the server that lives in my basement has better uptime than a trillion dollar company

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                #57

                @eri @0xabad1dea I said this about the server under my desk on a residential connection on reddit and people got super mad that I'm comparing my shitty server serving 5 people to github serving 8437823748932789432 people except that I put zero effort into running my server and I don't earn money off of that lmao

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                • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                  NINETY DAYS

                  NINETY INCIDENTS

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                  YOU PAID FOR ALL FIVE NINES BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE

                  #github

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                  #58

                  @0xabad1dea They're so close to achieving zero nines.

                  How do you even manage 90% uptime over 90 days?? 9 full days of downtime??

                  My homelab has been subjected to frequent power outages due to the house getting a bunch of electrical work & renovations done, and I've still managed at least 97%.

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                  • aeri@eldritch.cafeA aeri@eldritch.cafe

                    @0xabad1dea you can get more 9s of uptime is the first number is an 8

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                    @aeri @0xabad1dea Creative decimal placement can make a big difference too. Move it one place to the left and there’s no need to bring an “8” into play. Sure, we need to redefine the “high” in “high availability” but I’m up for it if everyone else is. #HighAvailability

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                    • boreq@chaos.socialB boreq@chaos.social

                      @eri @0xabad1dea I said this about the server under my desk on a residential connection on reddit and people got super mad that I'm comparing my shitty server serving 5 people to github serving 8437823748932789432 people except that I put zero effort into running my server and I don't earn money off of that lmao

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                      @eri @0xabad1dea oh this includes that I thought my geckos got into it and I shut it down, maybe they also have geckos at the data center

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                      • misofist@girlcock.clubM misofist@girlcock.club

                        @0xabad1dea They're so close to achieving zero nines.

                        How do you even manage 90% uptime over 90 days?? 9 full days of downtime??

                        My homelab has been subjected to frequent power outages due to the house getting a bunch of electrical work & renovations done, and I've still managed at least 97%.

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                        #61

                        @Misofist this graph (which is an independent third party tracker) is calculated by overlaying any detected issues from ten separate sub-systems of github on one timeline. Red bars are when any one of those ten subsystems has a critical failure, yellow is when any one of them has observable issues.

                        So it's not quite as extreme as 10% of the time just being completely, utterly dead. But still much worse, these last few months, than usual

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                        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                          @Misofist this graph (which is an independent third party tracker) is calculated by overlaying any detected issues from ten separate sub-systems of github on one timeline. Red bars are when any one of those ten subsystems has a critical failure, yellow is when any one of them has observable issues.

                          So it's not quite as extreme as 10% of the time just being completely, utterly dead. But still much worse, these last few months, than usual

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                          @0xabad1dea Yeah so it's more like 10% degraded service rather than 10% downtime.

                          Still, what the actual fuck.

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                          • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                            NINETY DAYS

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                            YOU PAID FOR ALL FIVE NINES BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE

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                            #63

                            @0xabad1dea It was a typo, they meant 5 8s and look, they exceeded their goal!

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                            • erikarn@mstdn.socialE erikarn@mstdn.social

                              @0xabad1dea i bet i know what's going on here

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                              @erikarn @0xabad1dea synthetic text extrusion doesn't actually make great software.

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                              • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                NINETY DAYS

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                                #65

                                @0xabad1dea Didn't know they meant .99999%.

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                                • emily@fedi.uni.horseE emily@fedi.uni.horse

                                  @0xabad1dea they're right there, idk what your problem is

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                                  #66

                                  @emily @0xabad1dea I don't know if I should make a Plan 9 or a Touhou reference, so https://analognowhere.com/_/lxhtmg/

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                                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                    @slembcke to confirm what someone else said while I was asleep, it’s an independent third party tracker called the “missing” github status page. https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/

                                    they track ten subsystems separately, which are each in the 96% to 99.9% range, then overlay all those incidents on the same timeline to arrive at 90% overall.

                                    I do not have any particular stance on whether github’s own tracker or this third party one is more fair and accurate, beyond “90-90-90 is hilarious” and observing only one of them has a contractual stake in possibly sometimes downplaying issues a little bit.

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                                    @0xabad1dea @slembcke if each subsystem is crucial for github to work, you multiply those uptimes and get 90.
                                    If the subsystems are independent then can't do that.
                                    If the CI system is down, you can't say github is down.
                                    I would then merge the timelines and get some metric "how long has there been no issue at all".
                                    That can be very low and the website is still fine.

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                                    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                      NINETY DAYS

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                                      #68

                                      @0xabad1dea Do I just imagine hearing voices from the engine room – or do you hear them as well?

                                      - Of course you're right, I should not have shut down that service…

                                      Not that one either you dumb §#%!

                                      - Oh my, of course not!

                                      Hey, do not… AAAAAA!

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                                      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                        NINETY DAYS

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                                        YOU PAID FOR ALL FIVE NINES BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE

                                        #github

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                                        @0xabad1dea GitHub used to be genuinely stable. Also I haven’t noticed a single useful new feature in years.

                                        Question is, is it a general Microsoft/firing people problem. Or is it AI?

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                                        • yon@sakurajima.moeY yon@sakurajima.moe

                                          @0xabad1dea GitHub used to be genuinely stable. Also I haven’t noticed a single useful new feature in years.

                                          Question is, is it a general Microsoft/firing people problem. Or is it AI?

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                                          @yon bit of column A, bit of column B, bit of column "global hardware crisis" due to column B

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