You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait.
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
We want the ability to control our own waterways, including through things like the Jones Act that would arguably violate that treaty.
So...we never signed it.
So now we're angry with Iran for violating a treaty neither of us is a party to.
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
@theleftistlawyer
Any country that has failed to sign up to the International Criminal Court should have no standing in international law. -
You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
@theleftistlawyer Why would Iran suddenly "close" the Stait of Hormuz? It's so unfair.
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
@theleftistlawyer @Binder Someone should tell Rubio that the U.S. can’t legally be attacking Iran, and see how that goes over.
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
Right, legally, one can’t close the airspace over one’s house by firing a machine gun into the air.
There’s the itty bitty matter of getting one to stop once they start.
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
@theleftistlawyer not just one problem: US agression of Iran is also unlawful under international law. The US does not care a shit on international law, in general. That’s not a problem, is a modus operandi.
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
@theleftistlawyer the government of the USA of A making up shit as they go along, shoot from the hip, yee haw … dumbasses … doesn’t Israel tell the USA what to do now anyway?
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
@theleftistlawyer the USA could seek redress at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), if it had not withdrawn from ICJ compulsory jurisdiction in 1986
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@theleftistlawyer
Any country that has failed to sign up to the International Criminal Court should have no standing in international law.@NMBA @theleftistlawyerd So I guess it is up to Canada to invade the US and depose the illegal government that has been claiming legitimacy the last eighteen months.
Elbows up!
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
@theleftistlawyer
It also withdrew pre-emptively from the International Criminal Court in 2002 when George W. Bush decided it was okay to torture Iraqi prisoners of war. -
You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
@theleftistlawyer "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Frank Wilhoit
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
@theleftistlawyer And neither did Iran or Israel. Israel never even signed.
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You're probably hearing a lot from Marco Rubio and the US State Department about international law and the Strait of Hormuz, and that Iran cannot legally close the Strait. Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, that's true!
There's just one problem.
The US never ratified that treaty.
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Right, legally, one can’t close the airspace over one’s house by firing a machine gun into the air.
There’s the itty bitty matter of getting one to stop once they start.
@BenHM3 @theleftistlawyer The Strait is narrow enough to be Iranian territorial waters, as well as Oman on the other side. As I understand it Oman signed a treaty that Iran did not sign.
The whole concept of territorial waters, the traditional six-mile limit, came from how far one could shoot a cannon from a shore fort.
International law tends to conform to physical reality since there is no 911 to call when your neighbor pisses on your lawn.
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@theleftistlawyer the government of the USA of A making up shit as they go along, shoot from the hip, yee haw … dumbasses … doesn’t Israel tell the USA what to do now anyway?
@NineStonesClose @theleftistlawyer If you mean ”Israel controls the US”, that’s a classic antisemitic propaganda trope. If you mean ”Trump does what the last person he spoke to said”, that’s probably true.
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@NineStonesClose @theleftistlawyer If you mean ”Israel controls the US”, that’s a classic antisemitic propaganda trope. If you mean ”Trump does what the last person he spoke to said”, that’s probably true.
@ahltorp @theleftistlawyer antisemitism is often used as an excuse by the uneducated and the politicians to shout down anything said these days against the current genocidal expansionist Israeli state. You maybe need to read some books about what antisemitism actually means.
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@ahltorp @theleftistlawyer antisemitism is often used as an excuse by the uneducated and the politicians to shout down anything said these days against the current genocidal expansionist Israeli state. You maybe need to read some books about what antisemitism actually means.
@NineStonesClose @theleftistlawyer What I wrote was that it’s a ”classic antisemitic propaganda trope”. It’s dangerously close to what some people are saying that’s actually antisemitic, so please tread carefully.
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@NineStonesClose @theleftistlawyer What I wrote was that it’s a ”classic antisemitic propaganda trope”. It’s dangerously close to what some people are saying that’s actually antisemitic, so please tread carefully.