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Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here.

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  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

    There were allegations that Buttigieg donors were on the tapes that the police chief recorded, plotting with the officers on how to get rid of all the Black people in city leadership.

    The Black community wanted to know if this was true. Buttigieg refused to release the tapes.

    But it gets worse...

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    @mekkaokereke I didn't know this about Buttigieg. I wrongly presumed that the US media was forming its opinions by actually talking to people. I need to stop presuming competence until I see competence demonstrated 🤦🏻‍♂️

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    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

      @jennifersmith

      Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff.

      Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg.

      He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmVfa3BvvY&t=251s

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      @mekkaokereke I'm not American so maybe that explains this, but I've never heard of Ossoff.

      @jennifersmith

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      • heathborders@hachyderm.ioH heathborders@hachyderm.io

        @mekkaokereke I didn't know this about Buttigieg. I wrongly presumed that the US media was forming its opinions by actually talking to people. I need to stop presuming competence until I see competence demonstrated 🤦🏻‍♂️

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        @mekkaokereke I'm impressed that historically Black churches have moved from being among the least accepting of homosexuality in 2007 to being among the most accepting in 2023.

        It seems possible that the US media is still rooted in outdated data. That isn't excusable.

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        • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

          Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here. Oops.

          Way back when, mayor Pete's reform-minded chief of police, Daryl Boykins, recorded some of his officers making vile racist statements. So Buttigieg fired... the police chief.🤡

          Boykins was the 1st Black police chief in city history, and was building trust with Black folk.

          But it gets worse...

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          @mekkaokereke ugh, there’s something uniquely terrible about white gay men, especially ones that can code switch or mask when needed, because they don’t have to live with their marginalized identities AND they don’t have to be around other marginalized people. At least my husband gets a front row seat to what it’s like for me being a woman in tech these days.

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          • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

            @jennifersmith

            Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff.

            Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg.

            He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmVfa3BvvY&t=251s

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            @mekkaokereke @gdinwiddie @jennifersmith is Ossof talking about a Presidential run? Interesting!

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            • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

              @mekkaokereke I'm not American so maybe that explains this, but I've never heard of Ossoff.

              @jennifersmith

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              @davidnjoku @mekkaokereke @jennifersmith I seem to recall he's one who "makes good trouble" 👍.

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              • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here. Oops.

                Way back when, mayor Pete's reform-minded chief of police, Daryl Boykins, recorded some of his officers making vile racist statements. So Buttigieg fired... the police chief.🤡

                Boykins was the 1st Black police chief in city history, and was building trust with Black folk.

                But it gets worse...

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                @mekkaokereke

                So he’s a real racist asshat. Blow me over with a feather.

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                • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                  @mekkaokereke I'm not American so maybe that explains this, but I've never heard of Ossoff.

                  @jennifersmith

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                  @davidnjoku @mekkaokereke @jennifersmith he’s one of our Senators, representing the state of Georgia.

                  (I’ve only heard of him because I live in Georgia, I’d only recognize the names of a handful of senators from other states)

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                  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                    Becerra can probably win California without the Black vote. There aren't that many Black people in California. 🇫🇷Paris has more Black citizens per capita than California. Seriously! Look it up.🤷🏿‍♂️

                    Talarico might still win Texas even after what Dems did to Crockett. Hispanic self-preservation vote.🤷🏿‍♂️

                    But Buttigieg can't win the presidency. Neither can Rahm Emmanuel.

                    You can run as many polls or buy as much press as you want. Doesn't matter.

                    It's not going to happen.

                    All the fascists run to the GOP side of the see-saw. You need all the Black voters, specifically all the Black men, to counterbalance that.

                    And we're not going to do that for these dudes.🤷🏿‍♂️

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                    @mekkaokereke

                    Every single one of these dudes that wants to run for President needs to pick a state and run for Governor there first. If you haven't shown you can win a statewide election, and preferably demonstrate some executive experience.

                    Pete lives in Michigan now. There's a whole lot of races there he could be in but he isn't. We need way more decent state level officials than we need wannabe POTUS Superheroes.

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                    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                      @jennifersmith

                      Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff.

                      Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg.

                      He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election.

                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmVfa3BvvY&t=251s

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                      @mekkaokereke @jennifersmith

                      What do you think of Pritzker? He hasn't made it to my shit list yet.

                      I say Newsom will never win because he's too ready to throw the vulnerable under the bus. I'll never vote for him; he wants me dead two ways. Autistic/ disabled and I was homeless. Plus, he tried kissing trumpie's ass before going on the attack.

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                      • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

                        @mekkaokereke ugh, there’s something uniquely terrible about white gay men, especially ones that can code switch or mask when needed, because they don’t have to live with their marginalized identities AND they don’t have to be around other marginalized people. At least my husband gets a front row seat to what it’s like for me being a woman in tech these days.

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                        @irene

                        I think it's very similar to what's going on with conservative white women.

                        Because they've experienced sometimes violent discrimination, they regard themselves as victims and claim a degree of innocence by definition.

                        The buck stops there, with no analysis of their own privilege or how they treat people they share common struggle with.

                        It's way safer to punch down or across.

                        @mekkaokereke

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                        • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                          The best that Dem presidential candidates with anti-Black track records can do, is win the Dem primary... and then lose in the general.

                          Then write silly and incorrect articles about how "Black men are moving towards Trump!🤡"

                          Dems complete this whole arc without ever having had one real conversation with any of the Black men voters that noped out.🤦🏿‍♂️

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                          @mekkaokereke thanks for continuing to educate, your clarity on this is a big help to me.

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                          • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                            @jennifersmith

                            Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff.

                            Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg.

                            He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election.

                            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmVfa3BvvY&t=251s

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                            @mekkaokereke @jennifersmith
                            I co-sign every word of this thread.

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                            • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                              @jennifersmith

                              Yes! Lots! Black voters are surprisingly forgiving/ optimistic! Eg: Harris. AOC. Ossoff.

                              Ossoff is closer to the 2028 presidency than Buttigieg.

                              He speaks with similar clarity, but adds an understanding of racial issues in the US, and a genuine empathy for Black people that cannot be faked. He doesn't just show up to the closest Black church a few weeks before the election.

                              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmVfa3BvvY&t=251s

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                              @mekkaokereke @jennifersmith Georgia is lucky to have two good senators. 😎

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                              • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                                Iowa and New Hampshire are irrelevant for predicting the next Dem president.

                                Caucastrophies or caucasualties or caucuses are also nonsense.🤡

                                Black men are holding an Africus, and in ours we went to the corner of the room that says that we're not electing any more people with anti-Black policies.🤷🏿‍♂️

                                In 2019, people were surprised that I predicted the exact date of Buttigieg's stunning collapse.
                                🔮🧙🏿‍♂️

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                                @mekkaokereke I knew exactly when Biden was going to get the 2020 nomination because I'm an adult who has paid attention to other primaries. He was never going to win NH and Iowa, but who cares? (I'm not just saying that because I'm in MA.) Biden was ALWAYS going to clinch it in SC (and people who attacked Black voters for not being "progressive" enough to choose Bernie missed the entire point).

                                Anyone who thought Buttigieg had legs were delusional or *really* liked his aw, shucks act.

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                                • fds@mastodon.socialF fds@mastodon.social

                                  @mekkaokereke I assume as far as the democrats are concerned it’s besides the point. They’ll continue shaming people who won’t pick the lesser of two evils because that’s worked really well so far.

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                                  @fds @mekkaokereke that's the centrist, nominally left, way worldwide.

                                  "You are wrong to care about the subjugation, why are you spoiling everything"

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                                  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                                    Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here. Oops.

                                    Way back when, mayor Pete's reform-minded chief of police, Daryl Boykins, recorded some of his officers making vile racist statements. So Buttigieg fired... the police chief.🤡

                                    Boykins was the 1st Black police chief in city history, and was building trust with Black folk.

                                    But it gets worse...

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                                    @mekkaokereke

                                    Thank you so much!

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                                    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                                      Because people infantilize Black folk, in particular Black men, they usually assume that they have more info than Black men voters, and make better decisions than us when presented with the same info.🤷🏿‍♂️

                                      No one bothered to do what you did (ask Black men why they didn't like Buttigieg as a candidate).

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                                      @mekkaokereke Yep. See also: Fetterman.

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                                      • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                                        Just realized that I never posted my thread about why Buttigieg cannot win the 2028 election here. Oops.

                                        Way back when, mayor Pete's reform-minded chief of police, Daryl Boykins, recorded some of his officers making vile racist statements. So Buttigieg fired... the police chief.🤡

                                        Boykins was the 1st Black police chief in city history, and was building trust with Black folk.

                                        But it gets worse...

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                                        @mekkaokereke
                                        Great insight. Thanks!

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                                        • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

                                          @mekkaokereke ugh, there’s something uniquely terrible about white gay men, especially ones that can code switch or mask when needed, because they don’t have to live with their marginalized identities AND they don’t have to be around other marginalized people. At least my husband gets a front row seat to what it’s like for me being a woman in tech these days.

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                                          @irene Wait, I just saw a relevant: https://blackqueer.life/@blackfinalboi/116531307998971505

                                          @mekkaokereke

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