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okay shall i try to set up Bitwig on Linux next

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  • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

    note: especially since we are talking about software one pays decent money for

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    #18

    can i run X in parallel with Wayland. perchance

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    • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

      can i run X in parallel with Wayland. perchance

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      @ahihi It's pretty easy to switch between X11 and Wayland sessions at the login screen.

      Honestly I decided to just stick with X11 for everything. I used Wayland for a while and it felt indistinguishable from X11 in terms of experience -- except for more freezes on my laptop when using Wayland.

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      • flockofnazguls@mastodon.socialF flockofnazguls@mastodon.social

        @ahihi It's pretty easy to switch between X11 and Wayland sessions at the login screen.

        Honestly I decided to just stick with X11 for everything. I used Wayland for a while and it felt indistinguishable from X11 in terms of experience -- except for more freezes on my laptop when using Wayland.

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        @flockofnazguls i need fractional scaling so X-only isnt really an option. having to log out to switch is also a pain so i am trying to set up X to run on another TTY

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        • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

          @flockofnazguls i need fractional scaling so X-only isnt really an option. having to log out to switch is also a pain so i am trying to set up X to run on another TTY

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          @ahihi Ahhhhhhh yeah.

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          • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

            can i run X in parallel with Wayland. perchance

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            i have started xfce into an unresponsive black screen πŸ’―πŸ”₯πŸ€πŸ§…πŸŽ‘πŸŽΊ

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            • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

              i have started xfce into an unresponsive black screen πŸ’―πŸ”₯πŸ€πŸ§…πŸŽ‘πŸŽΊ

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              #23

              maybe a simple wm would work better

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              • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                maybe a simple wm would work better

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                #24

                oh hell yeah

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                • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                  can i run X in parallel with Wayland. perchance

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                  @ahihi you can try `QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb <command to run whatever>` to run it under XWayland but idk if that will solve your problems.

                  You can use xeyes as a fun way to check if it is running under xwayland or not.

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                  • enoent@ravenation.clubE enoent@ravenation.club

                    @ahihi you can try `QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb <command to run whatever>` to run it under XWayland but idk if that will solve your problems.

                    You can use xeyes as a fun way to check if it is running under xwayland or not.

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                    @ahihi

                    you could also try `env -u WAYLAND_DISPLAY <command>`

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                    • enoent@ravenation.clubE enoent@ravenation.club

                      @ahihi you can try `QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb <command to run whatever>` to run it under XWayland but idk if that will solve your problems.

                      You can use xeyes as a fun way to check if it is running under xwayland or not.

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                      @enoent Bitwig already runs in XWayland, this is in fact the source of the problem

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                      • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                        oh hell yeah

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                        ok icewm is really not made for DPI scaling. which X WMs are? aside from i3

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                        • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                          ok icewm is really not made for DPI scaling. which X WMs are? aside from i3

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                          well guess what. the drag and drop doesnt work in X either

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                          • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                            well guess what. the drag and drop doesnt work in X either

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                            fine. i will not drag and drop files

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                            • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                              apparently i can not drag audio files into the arranger. what

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                              @ahihi Haha, that tripped me up so hard when I switched to Linux a few weeks ago. At first I thought my audio file was broken or in an unsupported format or something. I haven't found a file manager I like for Linux anyway, so Bitwig's built in one isn't that much more terrible...

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                              • ipaschke@cyberplace.socialI ipaschke@cyberplace.social

                                @ahihi Haha, that tripped me up so hard when I switched to Linux a few weeks ago. At first I thought my audio file was broken or in an unsupported format or something. I haven't found a file manager I like for Linux anyway, so Bitwig's built in one isn't that much more terrible...

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                                @ipaschke i dont love Dolphin, but at least it has usable keyboard navigation. the Bitwig one not so much

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                                • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                  fine. i will not drag and drop files

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                                  next challenge: i cannot scroll in the arranger

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                                  • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                    next challenge: i cannot scroll in the arranger

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                                    oh wait this is that thing where it wants you to use modifier keys with a touchpad for some reason

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                                    • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                      @ipaschke i dont love Dolphin, but at least it has usable keyboard navigation. the Bitwig one not so much

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                                      @ahihi I still haven't figured out basic things like "sort by type, then by date" with Dolphin. I didn't think I would miss Windows Explorer of all things...

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                                      • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                        oh wait this is that thing where it wants you to use modifier keys with a touchpad for some reason

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                                        #36

                                        right so basically horizontal scrolling on the touchpad doesnt work, vertical works in steps (not smoothly)

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                                        • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                          right so basically horizontal scrolling on the touchpad doesnt work, vertical works in steps (not smoothly)

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                                          alt + vertical scroll does steppy horizontal scrolling. ctrl + alt + vertical scroll does steppy zoom

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