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okay shall i try to set up Bitwig on Linux next

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  • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

    i understand it is a transitional time in the world of window management but this does feel like the type of thing that should just work since the 90s at the latest

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    note: especially since we are talking about software one pays decent money for

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    • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

      note: especially since we are talking about software one pays decent money for

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      @ahihi yeah, I have found that pretty wild. I do really like bitwig in general though.

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      • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

        @ahihi yeah, I have found that pretty wild. I do really like bitwig in general though.

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        #17

        @alisynthesis me too, on macOS it is very usable despite occasional glitches (usually fixed by restarting the app).

        but when literally the first thing i try to do with it here fails it feels like the Linux support is an afterthought

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        • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

          note: especially since we are talking about software one pays decent money for

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          can i run X in parallel with Wayland. perchance

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          • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

            can i run X in parallel with Wayland. perchance

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            @ahihi It's pretty easy to switch between X11 and Wayland sessions at the login screen.

            Honestly I decided to just stick with X11 for everything. I used Wayland for a while and it felt indistinguishable from X11 in terms of experience -- except for more freezes on my laptop when using Wayland.

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            • flockofnazguls@mastodon.socialF flockofnazguls@mastodon.social

              @ahihi It's pretty easy to switch between X11 and Wayland sessions at the login screen.

              Honestly I decided to just stick with X11 for everything. I used Wayland for a while and it felt indistinguishable from X11 in terms of experience -- except for more freezes on my laptop when using Wayland.

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              @flockofnazguls i need fractional scaling so X-only isnt really an option. having to log out to switch is also a pain so i am trying to set up X to run on another TTY

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              • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                @flockofnazguls i need fractional scaling so X-only isnt really an option. having to log out to switch is also a pain so i am trying to set up X to run on another TTY

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                @ahihi Ahhhhhhh yeah.

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                • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                  can i run X in parallel with Wayland. perchance

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                  i have started xfce into an unresponsive black screen πŸ’―πŸ”₯πŸ€πŸ§…πŸŽ‘πŸŽΊ

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                  • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                    i have started xfce into an unresponsive black screen πŸ’―πŸ”₯πŸ€πŸ§…πŸŽ‘πŸŽΊ

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                    #23

                    maybe a simple wm would work better

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                    • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                      maybe a simple wm would work better

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                      #24

                      oh hell yeah

                      tiny icewm

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                      • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                        can i run X in parallel with Wayland. perchance

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                        @ahihi you can try `QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb <command to run whatever>` to run it under XWayland but idk if that will solve your problems.

                        You can use xeyes as a fun way to check if it is running under xwayland or not.

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                        • enoent@ravenation.clubE enoent@ravenation.club

                          @ahihi you can try `QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb <command to run whatever>` to run it under XWayland but idk if that will solve your problems.

                          You can use xeyes as a fun way to check if it is running under xwayland or not.

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                          @ahihi

                          you could also try `env -u WAYLAND_DISPLAY <command>`

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                          • enoent@ravenation.clubE enoent@ravenation.club

                            @ahihi you can try `QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb <command to run whatever>` to run it under XWayland but idk if that will solve your problems.

                            You can use xeyes as a fun way to check if it is running under xwayland or not.

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                            @enoent Bitwig already runs in XWayland, this is in fact the source of the problem

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                            • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                              oh hell yeah

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                              ok icewm is really not made for DPI scaling. which X WMs are? aside from i3

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                              • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                ok icewm is really not made for DPI scaling. which X WMs are? aside from i3

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                                well guess what. the drag and drop doesnt work in X either

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                                • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                  well guess what. the drag and drop doesnt work in X either

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                                  fine. i will not drag and drop files

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                                  • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                    apparently i can not drag audio files into the arranger. what

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                                    @ahihi Haha, that tripped me up so hard when I switched to Linux a few weeks ago. At first I thought my audio file was broken or in an unsupported format or something. I haven't found a file manager I like for Linux anyway, so Bitwig's built in one isn't that much more terrible...

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                                    • ipaschke@cyberplace.socialI ipaschke@cyberplace.social

                                      @ahihi Haha, that tripped me up so hard when I switched to Linux a few weeks ago. At first I thought my audio file was broken or in an unsupported format or something. I haven't found a file manager I like for Linux anyway, so Bitwig's built in one isn't that much more terrible...

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                                      @ipaschke i dont love Dolphin, but at least it has usable keyboard navigation. the Bitwig one not so much

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                                      • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                        fine. i will not drag and drop files

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                                        next challenge: i cannot scroll in the arranger

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                                        • ahihi@anticapitalist.partyA ahihi@anticapitalist.party

                                          next challenge: i cannot scroll in the arranger

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                                          oh wait this is that thing where it wants you to use modifier keys with a touchpad for some reason

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