to be absolutely clear: alpine is *not* switching to systemd or implementing a 'systemd compatibility layer'.

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@alwayscurious i do not know *what* the article means by 'systemd compatibility layer', but it describes libsystemd coming to alpine which has not happened

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

also, it is funny that the article talks about proprietary software not working on alpine

in general, this is not a concern in the alpine community, and we do support flatpak

[brett_e_carlock@mastodon.online]

@weirdtreething
Yeah, it is really unfortunate as Alpine is what finally convinced me Linux was viable as a personal computing OS after two decades of distrohopping, multibooting, and virtualizing Linux.

@ariadne

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@Brett_E_Carlock @weirdtreething indeed, maybe some of us have different priorities than the typical GNU/Linux user/developer

[xarvos@outerheaven.club]

the moment i opened the page it slapped gemini widget on my face <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://outerheaven.club/emoji/neofox/neofox_baa_256.png" title=":neofox_baa:" />

@ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

[craftyguy@freeradical.zone]

@ariadne wow, that was painful to read. Literally.

[aissen@social.treehouse.systems]

@ariadne 12 bullet lists in an article ? I love them as much as the next person, but even I know not to abuse them. No serious editor would have let this pass, seriously this is slop without even as much as a review pass.

[msh@coales.co]

@ariadne TBH its hard to tell the difference between the slop excreted by Lunduke and that from an LLM these days they seem to have been converging over the years

[donelias@mastodon.cr]

@ariadne

What a shame to have one's name in a masthead of a slop publication machine
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/masthead

[aelspire@aelspire.info]

@ariadne Woho! Thanks for considering using udev in Alpine! It was the thing which forced me to return to Arch, while I would prefer to use Alpine. I've tried to use mdev + libudev-zero but it had a lot of quirks, so I switched to eudev but it had problems with mounting encrypted USB drives and some other quirks, so I tried to just use mount, but while on (some?) BSDs you can allow mount without root when user have permissions for both a device and a mount point, Linux does not.

Almost everything depends on libudev…

[lkundrak@metalhead.club]

@ariadne "this looks like a normal article to me"

-- high school bullies who couldn't write an essay and never figured out why they got an E

[zyx@social.treehouse.systems]

@whitequark @ariadne yep Gentoo has been packaging systemd-{tmpfiles,udevd,boot} separately on OpenRC systems for a long while.

[whitequark@social.treehouse.systems]

@zyx @ariadne I had assumed the eudev fork needed to happen bc this wasn't possible

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@zyx @whitequark at one point in time it was necessary, but it's a lot easier now with meson.

[dysfun@social.treehouse.systems]

@ariadne how does meson help here? just out of curiosity

[ariadne@social.treehouse.systems]

@dysfun we can easily build specific subcomponents of systemd with meson while still getting the internal dependencies right. with autotools it was a nightmare.

[dysfun@social.treehouse.systems]

@ariadne makes sense

[coolbean@brain.worm.pink]

@ariadne lmfao the hoax generators be generating hoaxes

[moses_izumi@fe.disroot.org]

@ariadne
Linux Urinal also slopped out an article that misrepresented Loss32 (project for running Wine as the primary desktop environment, 'cause it's easier and more helpful than making endless Wine frontends) as just another "modern Linux for 32-bit notebooks"-project.

I hope @hikari is as disappointed as I am

[arcaneoverflow@techhub.social]

@ariadne I'm glad to hear it I was looking for a tidier and more focussed disti some time ago, and looking more closely I should probably have chosen Alpine