does anybody have material on suicide intervention that doesn't include cops?

[xyhhx@438punk.house]

@moss shit they actually have one canadian city, just not mine

[nev@status.nevillepark.ca]

@xyhhx note: Toronto has 211/the TCCS https://www.toronto.ca/community-people/public-safety-alerts/community-safety-wellbeing-programs/toronto-community-crisis-service/tccs-what-we-do/

[xyhhx@438punk.house]

@nev thanks! incidentally so does montreal

[toxophyllum@counterforce.social]

@xyhhx I’m taking a 2-day in-person training on this next month; if they have any decent materials I’ll report back/share.

[nev@status.nevillepark.ca]

@xyhhx from personal experience (being the suicidal person), if it is just extreme, acute ideation/plan-making and not "literally trying to kill oneself at that exact moment", the main benefit of going to an ER seems to be being forced to wait it out in a very boring environment, ideally sans phone, for several hours. This is a huge "your mileage may vary" but simply being in the same space/watching to make sure they don't do anything may be enough and is at least better than nothing.

[laurel@social.lol]

@xyhhx Not sure if you’re already familiar but Mutual Aid Social Therapy? They have a presence on IG which links to a library of zines related to suicide intervention, harm reduction, safety planning, & more. All anti-carceral ♡

[xyhhx@438punk.house]

@nev yeah, we're mostly looking at de-escalation and peer respite tactics for now

[xyhhx@438punk.house]

@laurel oooo do u have a link i can peruse? I'm not on instagram but can still probably scour

[xyhhx@438punk.house]

@toxophyllum amazing thank you!!

[xyhhx@438punk.house]

some links ive collected in this time:
- https://www.tinylantern.net/suicide-intervention-resources
- https://symbio-care.notion.site/Anti-carceral-suicide-resource-list-153b388ef382813d83bbded39976c05c
- https://dontcallthepolice.com

for montreal specifically:
- https://suicide.ca/fr/clavarder-avec-un-intervenant
- https://cpsmontreal.ca/
- https://interligne.co/ (LGBTQIA+ oriented)
- https://resicq.ca/liste-centres-crise/
- https://www.211qc.ca/en/psychosocial-support/helplines-talklines
- https://amiquebec.org/crisis

[xyhhx@438punk.house]

@laurel wait im in their signal chat lol

[nev@status.nevillepark.ca]

@xyhhx realized I should've replied to @moss's post—the website linked doesn't mention those services so is a bit out of date.

Also the Gerstein is great, but there are limited beds and you need a referral: https://gersteincentre.org/our-crisis-services/crisis-beds/

You stay there for a few days, you can come and go as you please except IIRC you are supposed to come back at meal times, there is privacy, there are people to talk to/resources if you want but it's not mandatory. At least that's how it worked many years ago when I stayed there. It is more like "staying at someone else's house for a weekend but you don't have to actually socialize" than an institution.

[kellyromanych@mastodon.social]

@xyhhx this is US based; however it is a coordinated effort from several organizations I & former colleagues worked alongside. Hoping it helps
https://bethe1to.com/bethe1to-steps-evidence/

[ptvirgo@mastodon.social]

@xyhhx sometimes I wonder about similar kinds of training. In this context I'm a little confused about how you're distinguishing direct and crisis intervention?

[xyhhx@438punk.house]

@reiayanami thanks!!