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@ulveon I didn't write anything about libertarians, so I don't know what the hell you think you're talking about

@ulveon try again, maybe read what I actually wrote. "civil libertarian" vs "illiberal"

The two groups I named are not the only ones in FLOSS of course. But they are the two who are fundamentally coming into conflict at the moment. And I'm addressing this to other civil libertarian minded Free Software folks.

For years the awkward entente between civil libertarian Free Software types and illiberal Open Source advocates has more or less worked out.

It's clear that this entente has broken down. These people advocating compliance with identity tracking and censorship regimes, where would they have stood in relation to PGP, GPG, the Clipper chip, DVDs, and all the other fights for civil liberties the Free Software movement engaged in decades ago? With their positions today, they'd have been on the other side.

We must not accommodate them. This is not a time for compromise, it's a time for principled stands.

@stefano It was pretty clear you were talking about 2002

The difference in the scheduler and general kernel stability was really incredible back then!

@pigworker electrically unbiased, apparently

@rpluim @mms That got me, as did the Meta key. Once I got it running under X11 things got easier

@th What's the EU alternative to state-funded mitm certificates ? Idk