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I would be interested in references if you have them. I’ve been having a hell of a time finding numbers on this stuff.

@siracusa @jamesnvc you still have a choice in how much you use them though. Just because there are restaurants serving the flesh of murdered animals everywhere does not excuse anyone from “having a choice”.

I think you’re trying to move the conversation from “should we be doing this” to “let’s examine what happens as a result of us doing this”, which I totally respect as a way to move the discussion forward, but I don’t think the framing of inevitability is accurate.

(This is coming from someone who eats animal products and uses LLMs — I’m not trying to establish some moral high ground, just trying to remain somewhat objective).

@siracusa @vmachiel I think the issue with this line of thinking is that the usefulness of AI comes mostly to rich software dudes in the global North (that’s all of us in this conversation) while the harms disproportionately go to those in the global South.

As long as the harms don’t come for us, we won’t care, and when they do, it will be too late.