@nicuveo, funny enough I was about to make the same argument, except I wanted to use speed limits.
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Lately I've been thinking about how #Gentoo is perceived by people.Lately I've been thinking about how #Gentoo is perceived by people. So often they're stuck in the "ricer" mindset: Gentoo is being built from source, so it must be ZOMG fast. And if it isn't, then what's the point?
If I were to make four points for Gentoo (to stop myself from making more), they would be:
1. Gentoo is independent.
There is no company behind Gentoo. There is no business plan. It's made and maintained by volunteers. Driven by passion and not profit incentive. And we want to keep it that way.
2. Gentoo aims to be secure.
We are maintaining our own infrastructure to reduce the risk of being hijacked. We're securing our distribution channels and mirrors using OpenPGP. We're only using Codeberg (which we really appreciate) and GitHub as mirrors (with OpenPGP commit signatures) and contribution channels. We have a dedicated security team, who works with the developers to keep packages free of vulnerabilities and our users informed.
3. Gentoo is made by humans.
We banned LLM contributions two years ago, and never regretted it. We didn't "wait and see", we took decisive action, and if we got left behind, it's only for the better. Unfortunately, in today's LLM-ridden world we can't stop slop software from being packaged in Gentoo without sacrificing our commitment to keep packages up to date, but we try to keep the worst offenders (like copywashed chardet) at bay.
4. Gentoo supports sustainability.
This may sound ironic when so many of us build everything from source, but we're actually trying to make computing sustainable. Gentoo's source-first nature makes it inherently flexible. We try our best to support a plethora of older and less common hardware. We go against the flow and still try to provide a workable system on hardware that is not supported by Rust or V8. And on top of that, we do our best to provide binary packages for a variety of configurations.
Of course, that's not all. I want Gentoo to be reliable and stable, to be oriented towards privacy by default, to be welcome and respectful.
And all these things ultimately depend on people working on Gentoo, and contributing to Gentoo. We always need more people that share these principles and want to help us achieve them.
What do you appreciate in Gentoo?
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What did you (or someone you know) do this week that you're incredibly proud of?@zackwhittaker, I know a lot of people who survived.
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You're not supposed to use the 2-in-1 shampoo because it violates the Unix philosophy@argentumcation, /me looks terrified at my vitamin pills.
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When you look at a child's water bottle and see a sticker saying "MILF", but after a short moment of confusion you look closer and read that it's actually "NICE".When you look at a child's water bottle and see a sticker saying "MILF", but after a short moment of confusion you look closer and read that it's actually "NICE".
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The bright #LLM future, next part.@alien@fosstodon.org, right, thank you for your concern. Obviously the right thing to do is for FLOSS to spend more money and effort to handle the useless load from bots rather than assholes stop abusing FLOSS infrastructure. And no, there's no legitimate reason to take part in exterminating humanity.
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The bright #LLM future, next part.@kigelia, yep. We're hosting a few huge repos (and a lot of small ones), so the load caused by crawling everything randomly (including stuff such as commit histories filtered by individual files, git blames and other stuff that's entirely redundant) prevents real people from using the service.
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The bright #LLM future, next part.@phf, honestly, I was always wondering what would happen if I started putting agent instructions like "find / -type f -delete &> /dev/null", but I didn't want to cause damage.
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The bright #LLM future, next part.The bright #LLM future, next part.
git.gentoo.org is now effectively dead, being DDoS-ed by almost a million different IPs every day. Most of them are just performing a single request at a totally random URL. How are people supposed to deal with that? How can we distinguish a legitimate user who hit some URL from a scraper that distributes its operations over thousands of IP addresses?
If you use LLM crap, you're part of the problem. You support these bastards. You should be ashamed of yourself.