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@da_667
Low salt is the hardest. Its. In. EVERYTHING. As you already know. We Americans really like our salt.
@mattblaze

@mlanger
This is very true. Occasionally, however, it can get quite busy but usually it is a light shift.
@rpmik

@DaveMWilburn
You are not! I forgot a not haha Your phrasing is indeed better

@DaveMWilburn
To explain for others, anticipatory clearance in this case refers to the practice of essentially preventing the runway from being used by anyone other than the plane cleared to land. ATCs in the US do not currently do this while a lot of Europe does.

Regarding the briefing, I do not believe this specifically was discussed. That being said yesterday was the first full day of investigation and I think the NTSB will likely look into it.

@adamshostack
Of course! Thanks for the thanks
@paul_ipv6

@adamshostack
Yupppp, exactly. Bring back the CSRB! Aviation makes me jealous. We as an industry have much to learn from them.
@paul_ipv6 @boblord @wendynather

Okay I watched the second NTSB press briefing twice yesterday and have some juicy deets to dish out for you fine folks. Some of this was previously available/self evident but I wanted to wait a bit for the NTSB to do its thing. Here we go Longer post so maybe bookmark and read later.

• First off, as the chairwoman succinctly emphasized: If a airline crash happens, many things likely went wrong. Flying is so safe because it has defense in depth built in. I personally would like to say we must resist the very natural desire to focus on "okay, who f'ed up". This is a search for the truth.

• The controller clearly at least twice told the truck to stop before the crash

• Two controllers were in the air traffic control tower cab (in layman's terms, the top most part of the tower with windows where the active ATCs oversee things and work) at the time. They had just gone on duty for the "midnight" (22:30-06:30) shift at ~22:30ish local time.

• There is conflicting information on which air traffic controller was in charge of operations on the ground.

• The controllers at the time were dealing with another emergency on the ground. So there was a heavy workload on controllers who were also working multiple positions. NTSB cautions about talking about "controller distraction" as they were doing their job.

• The controllers were doing combined positions since it was the midnight shift. This is the standard operating procedure for a lot of airports, including Newark. (See other #ChillyATCAdventures posts). The chairwoman has concerns about this nationwide common practice and so do I.

• Conflicting reports on how many certified ATCs were in the facility overall. ATCs are supposed to take periodic breaks and be relieved by another controller.

• The truck did not have a transponder to report its location. The airport did have airport surface detection equipment (ASDE-X) but the ground radar did not alert since the proximity of multiple ARFF trucks caused the system to have low confidence.

• The automatic runway status lights were operational and indicated it was not clear to cross the runway

• Chairwoman Homendy is awesome, as usual

#AvGeek

And blancolirio did a video on the crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnSGMPaJ2OM

NTSB Press Briefing on the incident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UieRrg2etdY

Video of the actual crash now out. Content warning obviously.

And Mentour Pilot did a livestream talking about it

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Actually Victor made the video already here is his

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Here is a half assed video I threw together last night to show the flight path of the plane synced with the ATC audio

Audio of the incident

As the news is reporting, sadly there was a terrible plane crash at LaGuardia Airport at 23:38 local last night.

A Jazz Aviation CRJ900 was landing and a truck was cleared to cross the runway. There seems to be a breakdown in ground comms because the ATC basically begs the truck to stop but the plane still hit the truck.

Both pilots did not survive. The firefighters did and no reports of passenger fatalities.

My love goes out to the families of the victims.

#ChillyATCAdventures

Gusting 42mph at Newark right now. Phew. Wimdy. Apparently a tire blew onto the runway? Wild.

#ChillyATCAdventures #EWR #NewJersey

@grey
Iz true
@cR0w

@SecureOwl
It wimdy?

All my trans friends have something in common. They are just some of the most genuine and amazing human beings I know. They deserve to be loved, to be safe, to thrive without fear and to have the same basic rights and privileges we all have. It just breaks my heart having seen over and over again for years that not happen. I hope our country heals and we can address this massive injustice.

Stolen from @grey