CIRCLE WITH A DOT

@tonnofuito@livellosegreto.it Quello che mi aspettavo da eporediese:
"Se non avete voglia di spremere le arance, ma non vi va nemmeno di mangiarle intere, ho una soluzione: fatevele tirare in faccia."

@selzero@syzito.xyz
Italian singer making fun of the English language with a song that sounds English if you are an Italian who doesn't speak English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5VpczwrSCc

@dalias@hachyderm.io @aurochs@todon.eu @futurebird@sauropods.win @Phosphenes@mastodon.social "ads that fit with the flow" CAN do much greater harm, in my opinion, depending on the ad, but I admit I'm not the greatest expert on the topic, so I may be wrong.

@dalias@hachyderm.io @aurochs@todon.eu @futurebird@sauropods.win @Phosphenes@mastodon.social I was just saying what I'm seeing anecdotally from the people around me who I see using IG and tiktok.

@graydon@canada.masto.host @aurochs@todon.eu @futurebird@sauropods.win ok, I see what you mean. Thanks.

@graydon@canada.masto.host @aurochs@todon.eu @futurebird@sauropods.win Ok, that's what I meant when I said I could see it in the moment-to-moment interactions, but not in the platform technology design. An art-feed and a communication-feed could share the same technological basis/framework, and be "separated" by a click.
Of course, I could imagine doing something to inhibit/prevent one or the other somehow, or to mandate mixing them up like other social media do.

@futurebird@sauropods.win @Phosphenes@mastodon.social @aurochs@todon.eu Honestly, I love the "no ads" thing, but not everyone I know agrees. Sure, they complain about ads, but it's mostly where they interrupt what they are doing. Often, they don't mind, or even enjoy, well done ads that fit with the flow of what they are doing.
The ad industry thought that making people numb by forcing more ads at us from everywhere all the time was the solution, but in truth well made well placed ads turn out to be seamless, and people don't mind them.

@graydon@canada.masto.host @futurebird@sauropods.win @aurochs@todon.eu I'm genuinely curious, so I'm not asking this to sound facetious: do you really have to make that decision? I mean, I see it in the moment-to-moment interaction/use of the platform/app, but I'm not convinced I see it in the design of the platform/technology itself (maybe in clients, sure). Could you explain what you mean (or point to some write up where it's explained already if you have it)?

@futurebird@sauropods.win @Phosphenes@mastodon.social @aurochs@todon.eu I'm going to say this in the wrong way:
These young people don't know how to use their phones and computers, their only interaction is to swipe on the screen one way or another.

And, to sort of reply to myself, so what? That just means that UI/UX for fedi clients should be redesigned with those patterns in mind when those apps are being built, if the goal is usability for the younger generations. (I don't want to sound like I'm saying this would be in any way easy, because I have an inkling of how hard it would actually be). Then at least an obstacle to adoption would be removed.

@futurebird@sauropods.win @aurochs@todon.eu The analogy I keep falling back to when describing my ideal "social network platform" is a porch.
I choose what gets on my porch. I can see what's on the road over there, and what's on my neighbors porches. Maybe I'm interested in some of that, so I'd like it on my porch as well. But the stuff I definitely don't care about, definitely can't get on my porch without my explicit consent.
I think properly crafted human curation is a big part of that.

@futurebird@sauropods.win @aurochs@todon.eu that sounds similar to misskey antennas, but those don't really work for me and I don't know why.

@futurebird@sauropods.win @aurochs@todon.eu this latter thing could possibly be a client thing? I don't know enough about the tech behind mastodon and activitypub to say.

@futurebird@sauropods.win @aurochs@todon.eu I like that. I think people should then also be able to opt-in to a "thing" where they also sporadically get posts that aren't in any of their chosen feeds, but are "related", for example by virtue of being in the feeds of the some of the people they follow, to give the sense of serendipitous discovery of new stuff. Maybe, a somehow tunable "serendipity factor" that widens the concept "related".
I think a tab like tab would usually be more useful/interesting than the local/global timelines.