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  3. A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

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  • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

    A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

    "This is what a stitch-up looks like," says UK MP Zarah Sultana.

    She "invoked parliamentary privilege to reveal [what] the British public was officially forbidden from knowing."

    The jury will not be told that "if convicted, they & 18 others will be sentenced as terrorists."

    See UK Hansard 14 Apr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzxhQU6QIM

    #UKPol #USPol #EUPol #palestineAction #news .

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    @DrALJONES
    I still think breaking a policewoman's spine with a big hammer is wrong and something you should be punished for

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    • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

      A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

      "This is what a stitch-up looks like," says UK MP Zarah Sultana.

      She "invoked parliamentary privilege to reveal [what] the British public was officially forbidden from knowing."

      The jury will not be told that "if convicted, they & 18 others will be sentenced as terrorists."

      See UK Hansard 14 Apr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzxhQU6QIM

      #UKPol #USPol #EUPol #palestineAction #news .

      richrarobi@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @DrALJONES

      I don't know how others feel about this, but I am getting extremely ANGRY that the #British #ukgovernment is FLOUTING the rule of law to hide their own #corruption

      I am proud of the #nanarchists who have shown themselves to be braver than I am.

      I am also totally dissatisfied with British #justice that appears to have been corrupted in the Elbit case.

      It appears that evidence was FABRICATED

      #starmer should be ASHAMED

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      • richrarobi@mastodon.socialR richrarobi@mastodon.social

        @DrALJONES

        I don't know how others feel about this, but I am getting extremely ANGRY that the #British #ukgovernment is FLOUTING the rule of law to hide their own #corruption

        I am proud of the #nanarchists who have shown themselves to be braver than I am.

        I am also totally dissatisfied with British #justice that appears to have been corrupted in the Elbit case.

        It appears that evidence was FABRICATED

        #starmer should be ASHAMED

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        @RichRARobi

        The term really took off after 9/11. Had you forgotten Blair? That's when the label "terrorism" became the standard (& invincible) way of criminalising dissent.

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        • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

          @RichRARobi

          The term really took off after 9/11. Had you forgotten Blair? That's when the label "terrorism" became the standard (& invincible) way of criminalising dissent.

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          @DrALJONES @RichRARobi

          As far as I know, the earliest example of this in the UK was about a hundred years earlier, when the government labelled suffragettes as terrorists.

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          • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

            @DrALJONES @RichRARobi

            As far as I know, the earliest example of this in the UK was about a hundred years earlier, when the government labelled suffragettes as terrorists.

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            @david_chisnall

            Oh, interesting. And of course many of their actions were "terrorist" in the standard definition of causing terror in the population. Unlike those of Palestine Action....

            @RichRARobi

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            • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

              @DrALJONES @RichRARobi

              As far as I know, the earliest example of this in the UK was about a hundred years earlier, when the government labelled suffragettes as terrorists.

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              @david_chisnall @DrALJONES @RichRARobi
              They started labelling opponents "terrorists" about the time "seditionists" went out of use.

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              • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @DrALJONES someone should tell the jury

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                @jupiter @DrALJONES If the topic of #JuryNullification comes up in the course of polite conversation with potential or current jurists, no it didn’t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

                #UKpol #USpol #EUpol #PalestineAction

                Stop 🛑 the #FelonsCrusade in the #MiddleEast.

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                • chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.scienceC chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.science

                  @jupiter @DrALJONES If the topic of #JuryNullification comes up in the course of polite conversation with potential or current jurists, no it didn’t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

                  #UKpol #USpol #EUpol #PalestineAction

                  Stop 🛑 the #FelonsCrusade in the #MiddleEast.

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                  @ChemicalEyeGuy @DrALJONES what came up?

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                  • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                    A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

                    "This is what a stitch-up looks like," says UK MP Zarah Sultana.

                    She "invoked parliamentary privilege to reveal [what] the British public was officially forbidden from knowing."

                    The jury will not be told that "if convicted, they & 18 others will be sentenced as terrorists."

                    See UK Hansard 14 Apr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzxhQU6QIM

                    #UKPol #USPol #EUPol #palestineAction #news .

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                    @DrALJONES And?
                    Lets be clear, just because the BBC don't understand the difference, HAMAS ARE TERRORISTS, the PLO were TERRORISTS.

                    At the very least, GBH , criminal damage should be dealt with, but this spineless government is unable to defend our shores, let alone keep terrorists OUT OF THE UK.

                    No amount of digital anything will solve this, only prompt action to deport anybody committing crimes against this country. Terrorists don't deserve human rights when committing atrocities.

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                    • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      @ChemicalEyeGuy @DrALJONES what came up?

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                      @jupiter @DrALJONES Anniversary of his death. Noted among “On this day…” articles.

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                      • R roger_w_@fosstodon.org

                        @DrALJONES And?
                        Lets be clear, just because the BBC don't understand the difference, HAMAS ARE TERRORISTS, the PLO were TERRORISTS.

                        At the very least, GBH , criminal damage should be dealt with, but this spineless government is unable to defend our shores, let alone keep terrorists OUT OF THE UK.

                        No amount of digital anything will solve this, only prompt action to deport anybody committing crimes against this country. Terrorists don't deserve human rights when committing atrocities.

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                        @roger_w_ You seem to have quite thoroughly demonstrated that you have absolutely no idea what you're commenting on here.

                        The story is not about Hamas or the PLO. In fact, it's not about middle-east politics at all - it's about UK politics, and the right to protest.

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                        • R roger_w_@fosstodon.org

                          @DrALJONES And?
                          Lets be clear, just because the BBC don't understand the difference, HAMAS ARE TERRORISTS, the PLO were TERRORISTS.

                          At the very least, GBH , criminal damage should be dealt with, but this spineless government is unable to defend our shores, let alone keep terrorists OUT OF THE UK.

                          No amount of digital anything will solve this, only prompt action to deport anybody committing crimes against this country. Terrorists don't deserve human rights when committing atrocities.

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                          @roger_w_ @DrALJONES

                          Let's see - any other examples? A few organisations come to mind: Irgun, Hagganah, Lehi, Herut

                          And then there are the individuals: Avraham Stern, Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir for example.

                          Fun fact: Lehi's weekly newsletter was titled Hamaas.

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                          • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                            @krans

                            Yes, terrorism charges.

                            I think I read that, at the time of the break-in, the desired laws weren't yet in place. Don't quote me.

                            @heinragas

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                            @DrALJONES @krans @heinragas
                            AIUI they are *not* formally being charged with terrorism charges, *but* the judge has been given discretion to sentence them as terrorist-related offenses if found guilty, with long prison terms. This is a new power granted to judges. The jury is not being told this, nor will they hear the defendants' defence. And no doubt the unedited evidence, which appears to paint a different picture of events, will be withheld, again. There's something very rotten here.

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                            • foxcj@mastodon.socialF foxcj@mastodon.social

                              @DrALJONES @krans @heinragas
                              AIUI they are *not* formally being charged with terrorism charges, *but* the judge has been given discretion to sentence them as terrorist-related offenses if found guilty, with long prison terms. This is a new power granted to judges. The jury is not being told this, nor will they hear the defendants' defence. And no doubt the unedited evidence, which appears to paint a different picture of events, will be withheld, again. There's something very rotten here.

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                              @foxcj

                              Much appreciated, Chris. Do you happen to have a source I can use?

                              @krans @heinragas @strangetown .

                              "AIUI they are *not* formally being charged with terrorism charges, *but* the judge has been given discretion to sentence them as terrorist-related offenses if found guilty..

                              "This is a new power granted to judges. The jury is not being told this, nor will they hear the defendants' defence. And no doubt the unedited evidence..will be withheld again. There's something very rotten here.

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                              • policestateuk@mastodon.me.ukP policestateuk@mastodon.me.uk

                                @roger_w_ You seem to have quite thoroughly demonstrated that you have absolutely no idea what you're commenting on here.

                                The story is not about Hamas or the PLO. In fact, it's not about middle-east politics at all - it's about UK politics, and the right to protest.

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                                @PoliceStateUK ah well, we all have a right to protest, and still have mostly free speech, what we don't have is the right to impose our views on other people and infringe on their rights in the execution of a protest - and that goes for you too.

                                You have every right to express your view, I just don't happen to agree with it.

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                                  @peterbrown

                                  There were several original charges. The first trial was for burglary. This one's for criminal damage. The dodgy bit is keeping the terrorism aspect secret. So the jury won't know the defendants can be sentenced as "terrorists" and the UK press is banned from publishing that fact.

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