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A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

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  • draljones@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

    "This is what a stitch-up looks like," says UK MP Zarah Sultana.

    She "invoked parliamentary privilege to reveal [what] the British public was officially forbidden from knowing."

    The jury will not be told that "if convicted, they & 18 others will be sentenced as terrorists."

    See UK Hansard 14 Apr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzxhQU6QIM

    #UKPol #USPol #EUPol #palestineAction #news .

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    • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

      A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

      "This is what a stitch-up looks like," says UK MP Zarah Sultana.

      She "invoked parliamentary privilege to reveal [what] the British public was officially forbidden from knowing."

      The jury will not be told that "if convicted, they & 18 others will be sentenced as terrorists."

      See UK Hansard 14 Apr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzxhQU6QIM

      #UKPol #USPol #EUPol #palestineAction #news .

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      @DrALJONES someone should tell the jury

      draljones@mastodon.socialD chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.scienceC 2 Replies Last reply
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      • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

        A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

        "This is what a stitch-up looks like," says UK MP Zarah Sultana.

        She "invoked parliamentary privilege to reveal [what] the British public was officially forbidden from knowing."

        The jury will not be told that "if convicted, they & 18 others will be sentenced as terrorists."

        See UK Hansard 14 Apr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzxhQU6QIM

        #UKPol #USPol #EUPol #palestineAction #news .

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        @DrALJONES Wait, how can you be charged for things you have already been acquitted of? Shouldn't that be impossible?

        draljones@mastodon.socialD krans@mastodon.me.ukK 2 Replies Last reply
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        • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @DrALJONES someone should tell the jury

          draljones@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jupiter

          Max and Zahrah are doing their best to disseminate the info. The UK media are banned from publishing it.

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          • heinragas@mublog.nlH heinragas@mublog.nl

            @DrALJONES Wait, how can you be charged for things you have already been acquitted of? Shouldn't that be impossible?

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            @heinragas

            I'd have to guess you know the UK left the quaint notions of justice & human rights behind after 9/11.

            They mimicked US "terrorism" laws... on imperial instruction.

            Remember Blair and Iraq?

            "Terrorism" now applies to, eg, peaceful protests for climate, animal rights, eg, filming animal cruelty, and so forth. It's totally chilling.

            The rationale: even peaceful protest can interfere with corporations' right to maximise profit.

            https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/press-releases/activists-challenge-animal-rights-terrorism-law-violation-free .

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            • heinragas@mublog.nlH heinragas@mublog.nl

              @DrALJONES Wait, how can you be charged for things you have already been acquitted of? Shouldn't that be impossible?

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              @heinragas I believe they're being tried on different charges. I think in the original trial there were also charges on which the jury was unable to reach a verdict, which are also applicable for retrial

              @DrALJONES

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              • krans@mastodon.me.ukK krans@mastodon.me.uk

                @heinragas I believe they're being tried on different charges. I think in the original trial there were also charges on which the jury was unable to reach a verdict, which are also applicable for retrial

                @DrALJONES

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                @krans

                Yes, terrorism charges.

                I think I read that, at the time of the break-in, the desired laws weren't yet in place. Don't quote me.

                @heinragas

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                • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                  A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

                  "This is what a stitch-up looks like," says UK MP Zarah Sultana.

                  She "invoked parliamentary privilege to reveal [what] the British public was officially forbidden from knowing."

                  The jury will not be told that "if convicted, they & 18 others will be sentenced as terrorists."

                  See UK Hansard 14 Apr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzxhQU6QIM

                  #UKPol #USPol #EUPol #palestineAction #news .

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                  @DrALJONES
                  I still think breaking a policewoman's spine with a big hammer is wrong and something you should be punished for

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                  • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                    A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

                    "This is what a stitch-up looks like," says UK MP Zarah Sultana.

                    She "invoked parliamentary privilege to reveal [what] the British public was officially forbidden from knowing."

                    The jury will not be told that "if convicted, they & 18 others will be sentenced as terrorists."

                    See UK Hansard 14 Apr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzxhQU6QIM

                    #UKPol #USPol #EUPol #palestineAction #news .

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                    @DrALJONES

                    I don't know how others feel about this, but I am getting extremely ANGRY that the #British #ukgovernment is FLOUTING the rule of law to hide their own #corruption

                    I am proud of the #nanarchists who have shown themselves to be braver than I am.

                    I am also totally dissatisfied with British #justice that appears to have been corrupted in the Elbit case.

                    It appears that evidence was FABRICATED

                    #starmer should be ASHAMED

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                    • richrarobi@mastodon.socialR richrarobi@mastodon.social

                      @DrALJONES

                      I don't know how others feel about this, but I am getting extremely ANGRY that the #British #ukgovernment is FLOUTING the rule of law to hide their own #corruption

                      I am proud of the #nanarchists who have shown themselves to be braver than I am.

                      I am also totally dissatisfied with British #justice that appears to have been corrupted in the Elbit case.

                      It appears that evidence was FABRICATED

                      #starmer should be ASHAMED

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                      @RichRARobi

                      The term really took off after 9/11. Had you forgotten Blair? That's when the label "terrorism" became the standard (& invincible) way of criminalising dissent.

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                      • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                        @RichRARobi

                        The term really took off after 9/11. Had you forgotten Blair? That's when the label "terrorism" became the standard (& invincible) way of criminalising dissent.

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                        @DrALJONES @RichRARobi

                        As far as I know, the earliest example of this in the UK was about a hundred years earlier, when the government labelled suffragettes as terrorists.

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                        • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                          @DrALJONES @RichRARobi

                          As far as I know, the earliest example of this in the UK was about a hundred years earlier, when the government labelled suffragettes as terrorists.

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                          @david_chisnall

                          Oh, interesting. And of course many of their actions were "terrorist" in the standard definition of causing terror in the population. Unlike those of Palestine Action....

                          @RichRARobi

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                          • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                            @DrALJONES @RichRARobi

                            As far as I know, the earliest example of this in the UK was about a hundred years earlier, when the government labelled suffragettes as terrorists.

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                            @david_chisnall @DrALJONES @RichRARobi
                            They started labelling opponents "terrorists" about the time "seditionists" went out of use.

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                            • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @DrALJONES someone should tell the jury

                              chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.scienceC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @jupiter @DrALJONES If the topic of #JuryNullification comes up in the course of polite conversation with potential or current jurists, no it didn’t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

                              #UKpol #USpol #EUpol #PalestineAction

                              Stop 🛑 the #FelonsCrusade in the #MiddleEast.

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                              • chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.scienceC chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.science

                                @jupiter @DrALJONES If the topic of #JuryNullification comes up in the course of polite conversation with potential or current jurists, no it didn’t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

                                #UKpol #USpol #EUpol #PalestineAction

                                Stop 🛑 the #FelonsCrusade in the #MiddleEast.

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                                @ChemicalEyeGuy @DrALJONES what came up?

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                                • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                                  A new hearing of Palestine Action activists (acquitted of burglery charges in Feb) is on bogus "terrorism” charges.

                                  "This is what a stitch-up looks like," says UK MP Zarah Sultana.

                                  She "invoked parliamentary privilege to reveal [what] the British public was officially forbidden from knowing."

                                  The jury will not be told that "if convicted, they & 18 others will be sentenced as terrorists."

                                  See UK Hansard 14 Apr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzxhQU6QIM

                                  #UKPol #USPol #EUPol #palestineAction #news .

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                                  @DrALJONES And?
                                  Lets be clear, just because the BBC don't understand the difference, HAMAS ARE TERRORISTS, the PLO were TERRORISTS.

                                  At the very least, GBH , criminal damage should be dealt with, but this spineless government is unable to defend our shores, let alone keep terrorists OUT OF THE UK.

                                  No amount of digital anything will solve this, only prompt action to deport anybody committing crimes against this country. Terrorists don't deserve human rights when committing atrocities.

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                                  • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @ChemicalEyeGuy @DrALJONES what came up?

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                                    @jupiter @DrALJONES Anniversary of his death. Noted among “On this day…” articles.

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                                    • R roger_w_@fosstodon.org

                                      @DrALJONES And?
                                      Lets be clear, just because the BBC don't understand the difference, HAMAS ARE TERRORISTS, the PLO were TERRORISTS.

                                      At the very least, GBH , criminal damage should be dealt with, but this spineless government is unable to defend our shores, let alone keep terrorists OUT OF THE UK.

                                      No amount of digital anything will solve this, only prompt action to deport anybody committing crimes against this country. Terrorists don't deserve human rights when committing atrocities.

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                                      @roger_w_ You seem to have quite thoroughly demonstrated that you have absolutely no idea what you're commenting on here.

                                      The story is not about Hamas or the PLO. In fact, it's not about middle-east politics at all - it's about UK politics, and the right to protest.

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                                        @DrALJONES And?
                                        Lets be clear, just because the BBC don't understand the difference, HAMAS ARE TERRORISTS, the PLO were TERRORISTS.

                                        At the very least, GBH , criminal damage should be dealt with, but this spineless government is unable to defend our shores, let alone keep terrorists OUT OF THE UK.

                                        No amount of digital anything will solve this, only prompt action to deport anybody committing crimes against this country. Terrorists don't deserve human rights when committing atrocities.

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                                        @roger_w_ @DrALJONES

                                        Let's see - any other examples? A few organisations come to mind: Irgun, Hagganah, Lehi, Herut

                                        And then there are the individuals: Avraham Stern, Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir for example.

                                        Fun fact: Lehi's weekly newsletter was titled Hamaas.

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                                        • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                                          @krans

                                          Yes, terrorism charges.

                                          I think I read that, at the time of the break-in, the desired laws weren't yet in place. Don't quote me.

                                          @heinragas

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                                          @DrALJONES @krans @heinragas
                                          AIUI they are *not* formally being charged with terrorism charges, *but* the judge has been given discretion to sentence them as terrorist-related offenses if found guilty, with long prison terms. This is a new power granted to judges. The jury is not being told this, nor will they hear the defendants' defence. And no doubt the unedited evidence, which appears to paint a different picture of events, will be withheld, again. There's something very rotten here.

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