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  • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

    @xocolatli @isaactly_s you may be surprised to learn that using a language is only viable if the intended audience understands that language

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    @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s Are you implying that only the language with the largest userbase is relevant?

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    • cowman@thecanadian.socialC cowman@thecanadian.social

      @DekaBlack @isaactly_s well if you rather be a 'fisherist' or 'fishingyperson' go right ahead, but 'fisherfighter' (or 'fishfighter') is a total win in my books.

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      @CowMan @DekaBlack @isaactly_s we call them "fishers" in Canada, but this has more interesting energy! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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      • deborahh@cosocial.caD deborahh@cosocial.ca

        @CowMan @DekaBlack @isaactly_s we call them "fishers" in Canada, but this has more interesting energy! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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        @deborahh @CowMan @isaactly_s That's because in canada you know how to deal with fishes ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        • helge@mas.toH helge@mas.to

          @isaactly_s Who will be BEST FIGHTER at my wedding?

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          @helge @isaactly_s That uncle after 3 drinks

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          • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

            @isaactly_s Honestly, "garbagefighter" sounds pretty awesome. Way better than "garbage collector" or whatever. Anyway, that term's been coopted by the software industry.

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            @StarkRG @isaactly_s "Pickup artists and garbage men should switch names."

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            • dekablack@mastodon.socialD dekablack@mastodon.social

              @deborahh @CowMan @isaactly_s That's because in canada you know how to deal with fishes ๐Ÿ˜‰

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              @DekaBlack @CowMan @isaactly_s yes, if you are polite to them you don't have to fight them! (I think. Not an expert, just a Canuck ๐Ÿ˜‚).

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              • X xocolatli@lingo.lol

                @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s Are you implying that only the language with the largest userbase is relevant?

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                @xocolatli @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s and yet you participate in the society, curious!

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                • virtulis@loud.computerV virtulis@loud.computer

                  @xocolatli @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s and yet you participate in the society, curious!

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                  @virtulis @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s I never claimed to need to speak gender neutrally, but for people who care, there are languages that do not have pervasive gender recognition in their structure ... Surprisingly, many of them aren't fictitious

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                  • X xocolatli@lingo.lol

                    @virtulis @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s I never claimed to need to speak gender neutrally, but for people who care, there are languages that do not have pervasive gender recognition in their structure ... Surprisingly, many of them aren't fictitious

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                    @xocolatli @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s and English is very much one of them? Other than the pronouns, which I understand most people in fact prefer to have, and job titles, which are so trivial to fix we're literally in a thread for a meme about it.

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                    • X xocolatli@lingo.lol

                      @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s Are you implying that only the language with the largest userbase is relevant?

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                      @xocolatli @isaactly_s No.

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                      • X xocolatli@lingo.lol

                        @virtulis @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s I never claimed to need to speak gender neutrally, but for people who care, there are languages that do not have pervasive gender recognition in their structure ... Surprisingly, many of them aren't fictitious

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                        @xocolatli @virtulis @isaactly_s ok so you are saying we shouldn't make minor changes to English in order to remove its gendered elements but instead just all learn Algonqian because that is way easier.

                        Do you not realize how stupid that sounds?

                        Also, if you do not care about gender neutral speech, just keep out of conversations about it. Nobody likes a concern troll.

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                        • isaactly_s@mas.toI isaactly_s@mas.to

                          There was some discussion at work about gender neutral language. I told them I always go by this (old) guide.

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                          @isaactly_s I think it should be mailwrangler and garbagewrangler.

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                          • deborahh@cosocial.caD deborahh@cosocial.ca

                            @DekaBlack @CowMan @isaactly_s yes, if you are polite to them you don't have to fight them! (I think. Not an expert, just a Canuck ๐Ÿ˜‚).

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                            @deborahh @CowMan @isaactly_s I see...good method.

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                            • dekablack@mastodon.socialD dekablack@mastodon.social

                              @deborahh @CowMan @isaactly_s I see...good method.

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                              @DekaBlack @CowMan @isaactly_s you'd get a sore throat, though, from all the apologising. ๐Ÿคญ

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                              • deborahh@cosocial.caD deborahh@cosocial.ca

                                @DekaBlack @CowMan @isaactly_s you'd get a sore throat, though, from all the apologising. ๐Ÿคญ

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                                @deborahh @CowMan @isaactly_s That downside is why there's still fishfighters

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                                • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                                  @isaactly_s Honestly, "garbagefighter" sounds pretty awesome. Way better than "garbage collector" or whatever. Anyway, that term's been coopted by the software industry.

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                                  @StarkRG @isaactly_s, โ€bin manโ€ (or โ€œbin fighterโ€).

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                                  • isaactly_s@mas.toI isaactly_s@mas.to

                                    There was some discussion at work about gender neutral language. I told them I always go by this (old) guide.

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                                    @isaactly_s@mas.to Man = Fighterlicker or Lickerfighter?

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                                    • isaactly_s@mas.toI isaactly_s@mas.to

                                      There was some discussion at work about gender neutral language. I told them I always go by this (old) guide.

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                                      @isaactly_s The Australian approach of sticking "-ie" on the end of any job (or indeed sometimes it seems anything resembling a noun) has lots of merits.

                                      However Spokesperson clearly should be cycle wheelwright.

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                                      • virtulis@loud.computerV virtulis@loud.computer

                                        @xocolatli @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s and English is very much one of them? Other than the pronouns, which I understand most people in fact prefer to have, and job titles, which are so trivial to fix we're literally in a thread for a meme about it.

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                                        @virtulis @ratsnakegames @isaactly_s English absolutely isn't gender neutral and never was

                                        By the way, it is also an Indo-European language, like every language in Europe except for Basque, which was of course my point

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                                        • isaactly_s@mas.toI isaactly_s@mas.to

                                          There was some discussion at work about gender neutral language. I told them I always go by this (old) guide.

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                                          @isaactly_s Steward/Stewardess -> Stewfighter ๐Ÿค”

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