Allow me to introduce #MLL coding, the counterpart to #LLM vibe coding.
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@colin_mcmillen @aburka
> 100% understood codeI've pulled plenty of code out of my brain where I have 0% idea how it works.
@colin_mcmillen @aburka @FritzAdalis You were doing humain slopping. Nothing to do with MLL.
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@colin_mcmillen holy shit, i'd better learn this or i'll get left behind. time to make it my entire personality
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@colin_mcmillen I don't get why people militantly fight against llms and vibecoding.
Besides when was the last time anything manual won against automation? -
@colin_mcmillen I don't get why people militantly fight against llms and vibecoding.
Besides when was the last time anything manual won against automation? -
@colin_mcmillen I don't get why people militantly fight against llms and vibecoding.
Besides when was the last time anything manual won against automation?@dauphin1 @colin_mcmillen Last time was last art auction ?
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@dauphin1 @colin_mcmillen Last time was last art auction ?
@VoquiLeibbrandt @colin_mcmillen
Not on that scale.
But OK, I guess you heard about it on you handwritten newspaper. -
@VoquiLeibbrandt @colin_mcmillen
Not on that scale.
But OK, I guess you heard about it on you handwritten newspaper.@dauphin1 @colin_mcmillen Sorry, my answer was generated by neuralink on top of an oyster
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@colin_mcmillen I don't get why people militantly fight against llms and vibecoding.
Besides when was the last time anything manual won against automation?I don't think you understand what labor of love means, not everything is a competition which has to be won.
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@colin_mcmillen I don't get why people militantly fight against llms and vibecoding.
Besides when was the last time anything manual won against automation?@dauphin1 @colin_mcmillen there are a lot of reasons, none of which have anything to do with opposing automation. It’s more about making automations that are usable, intelligible, maintainable, efficient, and so on, along with limiting resource consumption of development to the use of a single computer, and maintaining at least the possibility of respecting the rights of programmers as workers. Doing the opposite of any of those things is harmful; LLMs do the opposite of all of them
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@colin_mcmillen I like that you're calling it a labour of love. There was a time just before the dot-com crash when EVERYONE was getting into programming because it was big money. Those of us in it for love looked on, aghast, as our field was overridden by people who only cared about money, making it all the harder to find work.
This feels like the next iteration of that time, only people learning how to program didn't cause them cognitive harm.
And that suggests that this might be cyclic. I wonder what the next one will be. If it's a quarter of a century away I plan to still be working in the industry. It's what I love.
@mason @colin_mcmillen a quarter-century cycle sounds about right.
Wasn't it around the 70s that people realised there was a future in computers, men moved in, wages went up, and women (the original programmers because "it's like knitting patterns") were pushed out? -
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