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I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling.

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  • seachanger@alaskan.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling. here is my list of reasons for the policy, but my board is asking me to cite sources. Can you help me with any good references you would cite for any of these? (Or an edit or restatement where I’ve gotten it wrong or inaccurate?)

    *if you want to argue about why I shouldn’t have this policy kindly crawl into a hole in the ground and cover yourself with soil

    aud@fire.asta.lgbtA kellyromanych@mastodon.socialK sarae@ecoevo.socialS darby3@zirk.usD cafechatnoir@mastodon.socialC 20 Replies Last reply
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    • seachanger@alaskan.socialS seachanger@alaskan.social

      I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling. here is my list of reasons for the policy, but my board is asking me to cite sources. Can you help me with any good references you would cite for any of these? (Or an edit or restatement where I’ve gotten it wrong or inaccurate?)

      *if you want to argue about why I shouldn’t have this policy kindly crawl into a hole in the ground and cover yourself with soil

      aud@fire.asta.lgbtA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @seachanger@alaskan.social Here's a recent Guardian article that speaks to item #2: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ng-interactive/2026/feb/28/chatgpt-ai-chatbot-mental-health

      EDIT: This one needs a content warning for suicide, to be clear.

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      • seachanger@alaskan.socialS seachanger@alaskan.social

        I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling. here is my list of reasons for the policy, but my board is asking me to cite sources. Can you help me with any good references you would cite for any of these? (Or an edit or restatement where I’ve gotten it wrong or inaccurate?)

        *if you want to argue about why I shouldn’t have this policy kindly crawl into a hole in the ground and cover yourself with soil

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        @seachanger i will check around for cites. Having dealt with boards, the first thing that came to mind was that "AI can't donate"

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        • aud@fire.asta.lgbtA aud@fire.asta.lgbt

          @seachanger@alaskan.social Here's a recent Guardian article that speaks to item #2: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ng-interactive/2026/feb/28/chatgpt-ai-chatbot-mental-health

          EDIT: This one needs a content warning for suicide, to be clear.

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          @seachanger@alaskan.social Not sure about the methodology behind this one, but I've heard about it at least (re: #10): https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

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          • kellyromanych@mastodon.socialK kellyromanych@mastodon.social

            @seachanger i will check around for cites. Having dealt with boards, the first thing that came to mind was that "AI can't donate"

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            @seachanger this DAIR page has several issues

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            DAIR (Distributed AI Research Institute)

            DAIR is a space for independent, community-rooted AI research, free from Big Tech’s pervasive influence.

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            DAIR (Distributed AI Research Institute) (www.dair-institute.org)

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            • seachanger@alaskan.socialS seachanger@alaskan.social

              I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling. here is my list of reasons for the policy, but my board is asking me to cite sources. Can you help me with any good references you would cite for any of these? (Or an edit or restatement where I’ve gotten it wrong or inaccurate?)

              *if you want to argue about why I shouldn’t have this policy kindly crawl into a hole in the ground and cover yourself with soil

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              @seachanger I would look to the work of @emilymbender and her colleagues

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              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                @seachanger I would look to the work of @emilymbender and her colleagues

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                @sarae i have followed them for a while but now I am trying to just get some clear sources pasted in that people might know of

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                • kellyromanych@mastodon.socialK kellyromanych@mastodon.social

                  @seachanger this DAIR page has several issues

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                  DAIR (Distributed AI Research Institute)

                  DAIR is a space for independent, community-rooted AI research, free from Big Tech’s pervasive influence.

                  favicon

                  DAIR (Distributed AI Research Institute) (www.dair-institute.org)

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                  @seachanger and you may also find this one useful, including its citations

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                  (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov)

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                  • aud@fire.asta.lgbtA aud@fire.asta.lgbt

                    @seachanger@alaskan.social Not sure about the methodology behind this one, but I've heard about it at least (re: #10): https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

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                    @seachanger@alaskan.social Regarding item #5: https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5529404/anthropic-settlement-authors-copyright-ai

                    It's important to note, though, that the ruling walks a fine line: training of Claude was considered to be "fair use" (not a ruling I personally agree with but hey), however, the fact that Anthropic pirated all the materials was
                    not. Anthropic settled on this claim rather than take it to trial, it seems.

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                    • seachanger@alaskan.socialS seachanger@alaskan.social

                      I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling. here is my list of reasons for the policy, but my board is asking me to cite sources. Can you help me with any good references you would cite for any of these? (Or an edit or restatement where I’ve gotten it wrong or inaccurate?)

                      *if you want to argue about why I shouldn’t have this policy kindly crawl into a hole in the ground and cover yourself with soil

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                      @seachanger I probably do here but would need to do some cross referencing I can’t do at the moment

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                      AI Sucks, Actually

                      that's it, that's the thesis

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                      (ai-sucks-actually.fyi)

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                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                        @seachanger I would look to the work of @emilymbender and her colleagues

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                        @sarae yes, also @skinnylatte comes to mind for AI & nonprofits

                        @seachanger @emilymbender

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                        • seachanger@alaskan.socialS seachanger@alaskan.social

                          I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling. here is my list of reasons for the policy, but my board is asking me to cite sources. Can you help me with any good references you would cite for any of these? (Or an edit or restatement where I’ve gotten it wrong or inaccurate?)

                          *if you want to argue about why I shouldn’t have this policy kindly crawl into a hole in the ground and cover yourself with soil

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                          @seachanger

                          MIT recently released a study on the long term cognitive effects of AI use. (Spoiler: they're not good effects.)

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                          MIT Study Finds Artificial Intelligence Use Reprograms the Brain, Leading to Cognitive Decline - Science, Public Health Policy and the Law

                          By Nicolas Hulscher, MPH

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                          Science, Public Health Policy and the Law (publichealthpolicyjournal.com)

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                          • seachanger@alaskan.socialS seachanger@alaskan.social

                            I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling. here is my list of reasons for the policy, but my board is asking me to cite sources. Can you help me with any good references you would cite for any of these? (Or an edit or restatement where I’ve gotten it wrong or inaccurate?)

                            *if you want to argue about why I shouldn’t have this policy kindly crawl into a hole in the ground and cover yourself with soil

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                            @seachanger

                            Oh, and not necessarily something you can "cite" - but on the prohibition on AI in comms: The people you're communicating with deserve your time and energy in creating those messages.

                            (I'm still salty about one of our executives sending out an intro email to use where he gleefully announced he used ChatGPT for it. How little does he think of us if he can't even be arsed to write his own email?)

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                            • seachanger@alaskan.socialS seachanger@alaskan.social

                              I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling. here is my list of reasons for the policy, but my board is asking me to cite sources. Can you help me with any good references you would cite for any of these? (Or an edit or restatement where I’ve gotten it wrong or inaccurate?)

                              *if you want to argue about why I shouldn’t have this policy kindly crawl into a hole in the ground and cover yourself with soil

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                              @seachanger contact a librarian ...not sure if you are connected to a university. I wasn't, but university librarians were always very happy to help me, and they're fast.

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                              • aud@fire.asta.lgbtA aud@fire.asta.lgbt

                                @seachanger@alaskan.social Regarding item #5: https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5529404/anthropic-settlement-authors-copyright-ai

                                It's important to note, though, that the ruling walks a fine line: training of Claude was considered to be "fair use" (not a ruling I personally agree with but hey), however, the fact that Anthropic pirated all the materials was
                                not. Anthropic settled on this claim rather than take it to trial, it seems.

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                                @seachanger@alaskan.social speaking to maybe 6 and 7: not all that is sold as “AI” is actually AI, which isn’t quite what I had in mind while looking for privacy and safety concerns but it’s certainly related

                                https://data-workers.org/france/

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                                • aud@fire.asta.lgbtA aud@fire.asta.lgbt

                                  @seachanger@alaskan.social Not sure about the methodology behind this one, but I've heard about it at least (re: #10): https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

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                                  @aud @seachanger That's about the only actual study we have and it has a fairly low sample size, unfortunately. There are some other articles going around about the high cost and failure rates of AI projects though.

                                  Methodology-wise, it's okay and at least tries to control for perception vs reality.

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                                  • aud@fire.asta.lgbtA aud@fire.asta.lgbt

                                    @seachanger@alaskan.social speaking to maybe 6 and 7: not all that is sold as “AI” is actually AI, which isn’t quite what I had in mind while looking for privacy and safety concerns but it’s certainly related

                                    https://data-workers.org/france/

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                                    @seachanger@alaskan.social speaking to #3 a little: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk-xai-datacenter-memphis

                                    The other companies aren’t quite as blatant as Musk. Not sure I have any good definitive links on that; they definitely like to hide and fudge the numbers (“watt per inference!”) so I was trying to find something about the data center strain on grid capacity, but a lot of is paywalled…

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                                    • seachanger@alaskan.socialS seachanger@alaskan.social

                                      @sarae i have followed them for a while but now I am trying to just get some clear sources pasted in that people might know of

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                                      @seachanger @sarae

                                      The endnotes in our book are full of sources:
                                      https://thecon.ai

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                                        @seachanger @sarae

                                        The endnotes in our book are full of sources:
                                        https://thecon.ai

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                                        @seachanger @sarae

                                        Also, not sure what you mean by sources people might know of, but ... our book is a source!

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                                        • seachanger@alaskan.socialS seachanger@alaskan.social

                                          I’m working on an AI policy for my org that allows us to opt out of AI note taking and prohibits AI in our comms/storytelling. here is my list of reasons for the policy, but my board is asking me to cite sources. Can you help me with any good references you would cite for any of these? (Or an edit or restatement where I’ve gotten it wrong or inaccurate?)

                                          *if you want to argue about why I shouldn’t have this policy kindly crawl into a hole in the ground and cover yourself with soil

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                                          @seachanger

                                          #10. https://vcresearch.berkeley.edu/news/does-ai-actually-free-workers-time

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