Forced to use AI at work, hate it.
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Forced to use AI at work, hate it. Usage is monitored so I can't avoid it. I've set up mine to play a Sim City clone. It burns through tokens, making crap cities that quickly go bankrupt. Just been told that I'm getting a bonus for being a top user.
@fesshole that is genuinely horrific. Those tokens you burn are actual resources in the real world, like water and fossil fuels.
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Forced to use AI at work, hate it. Usage is monitored so I can't avoid it. I've set up mine to play a Sim City clone. It burns through tokens, making crap cities that quickly go bankrupt. Just been told that I'm getting a bonus for being a top user.
@fesshole I can’t like this. It still burns the planet.
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@fesshole that is genuinely horrific. Those tokens you burn are actual resources in the real world, like water and fossil fuels.
@alexmu @fesshole Ignoring that the story is probably made up because there's an audit trail that'd get them fired, if they're required to use the thing in their job anyway, there is nothing unethical about meeting the requirement in a way that protects themselves from the cognitohazard and deskillling and sabotages the boss's intent. Same harm to planet either way and that's on the employer.
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@alexmu @fesshole Ignoring that the story is probably made up because there's an audit trail that'd get them fired, if they're required to use the thing in their job anyway, there is nothing unethical about meeting the requirement in a way that protects themselves from the cognitohazard and deskillling and sabotages the boss's intent. Same harm to planet either way and that's on the employer.
This.
It's SOOOOO easy to blame the people at the receiving end of broken systems of power and control.
When people refuse to acknowledge that there are many situations with no good options, and a small number of less bad options, we get destructive absolutism that hurts people.
See also: voting in the US
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This.
It's SOOOOO easy to blame the people at the receiving end of broken systems of power and control.
When people refuse to acknowledge that there are many situations with no good options, and a small number of less bad options, we get destructive absolutism that hurts people.
See also: voting in the US
@funnymonkey @alexmu @fesshole Thanks. This is why I replied. Even if the story is fake, the principle it prompts is worth thinking about.
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@funnymonkey @alexmu @fesshole Thanks. This is why I replied. Even if the story is fake, the principle it prompts is worth thinking about.
This is something I have thought about (and observed) a lot over the years.
When I hear tech companies blaming privacy violations on users, and about policy pushing the obligation to address privacy and security issues onto those with the least amount of agency -- these things all feel very similar to me.
I know FessHole is UK and EU based (/me waves -- hello, friend!) but it reminds of the toxic myth of rugged individualism we love here in the US.
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@alexmu @fesshole Ignoring that the story is probably made up because there's an audit trail that'd get them fired, if they're required to use the thing in their job anyway, there is nothing unethical about meeting the requirement in a way that protects themselves from the cognitohazard and deskillling and sabotages the boss's intent. Same harm to planet either way and that's on the employer.
@dalias @alexmu @fesshole „because there‘s an audit trail that‘d get them fired“
What information do you base the assumption on that the employer implemented an actual audit trail (which might be illegal in Europe if it captures the conversion content due to data protection laws)?
Many LLM providers provide mere usage statistics because of the legal issues.
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@dalias @alexmu @fesshole „because there‘s an audit trail that‘d get them fired“
What information do you base the assumption on that the employer implemented an actual audit trail (which might be illegal in Europe if it captures the conversion content due to data protection laws)?
Many LLM providers provide mere usage statistics because of the legal issues.
@weizenspreu @alexmu @fesshole The slop provider has it even without the employer doing anything. And the account belongs to the employer.
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@fesshole@mastodon.social yup, this is the right way of dealing with employer forcing it - as opposed to pushing slop to unsuspecting open source projects
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Forced to use AI at work, hate it. Usage is monitored so I can't avoid it. I've set up mine to play a Sim City clone. It burns through tokens, making crap cities that quickly go bankrupt. Just been told that I'm getting a bonus for being a top user.
@fesshole - Right on, Right on.
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@fesshole I can’t like this. It still burns the planet.
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@weizenspreu @alexmu @fesshole The slop provider has it even without the employer doing anything. And the account belongs to the employer.
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Forced to use AI at work, hate it. Usage is monitored so I can't avoid it. I've set up mine to play a Sim City clone. It burns through tokens, making crap cities that quickly go bankrupt. Just been told that I'm getting a bonus for being a top user.
and the award for 'best practical application of the field service sabotage manual' goes to...
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This is something I have thought about (and observed) a lot over the years.
When I hear tech companies blaming privacy violations on users, and about policy pushing the obligation to address privacy and security issues onto those with the least amount of agency -- these things all feel very similar to me.
I know FessHole is UK and EU based (/me waves -- hello, friend!) but it reminds of the toxic myth of rugged individualism we love here in the US.
@funnymonkey @dalias @alexmu @fesshole I love it.
It does what satire should do. Punch up.
The trouble is now telling satire from reality.
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@fesshole that is genuinely horrific. Those tokens you burn are actual resources in the real world, like water and fossil fuels.
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@weizenspreu @alexmu @fesshole A casual remark about why a story is likely fake does not call for a detailed explanation of intricacies, especially when this kind of software is dropping logs both intentionally and unintentionally all over the place and there is absolutely significant risk of getting caught.
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@weizenspreu @alexmu @fesshole A casual remark about why a story is likely fake does not call for a detailed explanation of intricacies, especially when this kind of software is dropping logs both intentionally and unintentionally all over the place and there is absolutely significant risk of getting caught.
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@alexmu @fesshole Ignoring that the story is probably made up because there's an audit trail that'd get them fired, if they're required to use the thing in their job anyway, there is nothing unethical about meeting the requirement in a way that protects themselves from the cognitohazard and deskillling and sabotages the boss's intent. Same harm to planet either way and that's on the employer.
@dalias @fesshole that's a myopic way to look at it. Most likely the employer doesn't care enough about you to want to deskill you by exposing you to "cognitoharazds". They're following hype and/or they're misguided. I'd be tempted to say they don't even have a strategy around the use of llms, but that's just speculation. So you're not really sabotaging the company by burning tokens. What you're doing is moral posturing that makes you feel better about yourself because you're the main character in your story and you're sticking it to the man. But that's a pointless exercise that only ends up sabotaging the cause you're supposedly fighting for (taking down capitalism, llm hype, late stage capitalism death cult). By silently complying, and using the tokens you're just bolstering their policy.
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Forced to use AI at work, hate it. Usage is monitored so I can't avoid it. I've set up mine to play a Sim City clone. It burns through tokens, making crap cities that quickly go bankrupt. Just been told that I'm getting a bonus for being a top user.
Raises the question. Is there any good way to use AI? Is there a way to invert it and turn it on itself, to use AI to destroy AI, to sabotage any ill it is designed to inflict, to undo or replace its propaganda effect, to use it to release the Epstein files?
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@dalias @fesshole that's a myopic way to look at it. Most likely the employer doesn't care enough about you to want to deskill you by exposing you to "cognitoharazds". They're following hype and/or they're misguided. I'd be tempted to say they don't even have a strategy around the use of llms, but that's just speculation. So you're not really sabotaging the company by burning tokens. What you're doing is moral posturing that makes you feel better about yourself because you're the main character in your story and you're sticking it to the man. But that's a pointless exercise that only ends up sabotaging the cause you're supposedly fighting for (taking down capitalism, llm hype, late stage capitalism death cult). By silently complying, and using the tokens you're just bolstering their policy.
