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  • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

    Forced to use AI at work, hate it. Usage is monitored so I can't avoid it. I've set up mine to play a Sim City clone. It burns through tokens, making crap cities that quickly go bankrupt. Just been told that I'm getting a bonus for being a top user.

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    @fesshole - Right on, Right on.

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    • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

      @fesshole I can’t like this. It still burns the planet.

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      @mirabilos @fesshole 👍

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      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

        @weizenspreu @alexmu @fesshole The slop provider has it even without the employer doing anything. And the account belongs to the employer.

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        @dalias @alexmu @fesshole So it‘s all based on assumptions communicated as facts and conclusions are drawn based on these assumptions. Understood.

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        • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

          Forced to use AI at work, hate it. Usage is monitored so I can't avoid it. I've set up mine to play a Sim City clone. It burns through tokens, making crap cities that quickly go bankrupt. Just been told that I'm getting a bonus for being a top user.

          saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @fesshole

          and the award for 'best practical application of the field service sabotage manual' goes to...

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          • funnymonkey@freeradical.zoneF funnymonkey@freeradical.zone

            @dalias

            This is something I have thought about (and observed) a lot over the years.

            When I hear tech companies blaming privacy violations on users, and about policy pushing the obligation to address privacy and security issues onto those with the least amount of agency -- these things all feel very similar to me.

            I know FessHole is UK and EU based (/me waves -- hello, friend!) but it reminds of the toxic myth of rugged individualism we love here in the US.

            @alexmu @fesshole

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            @funnymonkey @dalias @alexmu @fesshole I love it.

            It does what satire should do. Punch up.

            The trouble is now telling satire from reality.

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            • alexmu@social.vivaldi.netA alexmu@social.vivaldi.net

              @fesshole that is genuinely horrific. Those tokens you burn are actual resources in the real world, like water and fossil fuels.

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              @alexmu @fesshole yes, and even if the employer really would force the usage of it there are better things to do with the tokens. But there is definitely no reason to use so many tokens that they are rewarded for being rewarded to use the most tokens, when they actually have been wasted.

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              • weizenspreu@chaos.socialW weizenspreu@chaos.social

                @dalias @alexmu @fesshole So it‘s all based on assumptions communicated as facts and conclusions are drawn based on these assumptions. Understood.

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                @weizenspreu @alexmu @fesshole A casual remark about why a story is likely fake does not call for a detailed explanation of intricacies, especially when this kind of software is dropping logs both intentionally and unintentionally all over the place and there is absolutely significant risk of getting caught.

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                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                  @weizenspreu @alexmu @fesshole A casual remark about why a story is likely fake does not call for a detailed explanation of intricacies, especially when this kind of software is dropping logs both intentionally and unintentionally all over the place and there is absolutely significant risk of getting caught.

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                  @dalias @alexmu @fesshole Calling it „probably made up“ because of your personal risk assessment strikes me as weird nevertheless.

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                  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                    @alexmu @fesshole Ignoring that the story is probably made up because there's an audit trail that'd get them fired, if they're required to use the thing in their job anyway, there is nothing unethical about meeting the requirement in a way that protects themselves from the cognitohazard and deskillling and sabotages the boss's intent. Same harm to planet either way and that's on the employer.

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                    @dalias @fesshole that's a myopic way to look at it. Most likely the employer doesn't care enough about you to want to deskill you by exposing you to "cognitoharazds". They're following hype and/or they're misguided. I'd be tempted to say they don't even have a strategy around the use of llms, but that's just speculation. So you're not really sabotaging the company by burning tokens. What you're doing is moral posturing that makes you feel better about yourself because you're the main character in your story and you're sticking it to the man. But that's a pointless exercise that only ends up sabotaging the cause you're supposedly fighting for (taking down capitalism, llm hype, late stage capitalism death cult). By silently complying, and using the tokens you're just bolstering their policy.

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                    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                      Forced to use AI at work, hate it. Usage is monitored so I can't avoid it. I've set up mine to play a Sim City clone. It burns through tokens, making crap cities that quickly go bankrupt. Just been told that I'm getting a bonus for being a top user.

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                      @fesshole

                      Raises the question. Is there any good way to use AI? Is there a way to invert it and turn it on itself, to use AI to destroy AI, to sabotage any ill it is designed to inflict, to undo or replace its propaganda effect, to use it to release the Epstein files?

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                      • alexmu@social.vivaldi.netA alexmu@social.vivaldi.net

                        @dalias @fesshole that's a myopic way to look at it. Most likely the employer doesn't care enough about you to want to deskill you by exposing you to "cognitoharazds". They're following hype and/or they're misguided. I'd be tempted to say they don't even have a strategy around the use of llms, but that's just speculation. So you're not really sabotaging the company by burning tokens. What you're doing is moral posturing that makes you feel better about yourself because you're the main character in your story and you're sticking it to the man. But that's a pointless exercise that only ends up sabotaging the cause you're supposedly fighting for (taking down capitalism, llm hype, late stage capitalism death cult). By silently complying, and using the tokens you're just bolstering their policy.

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                        @alexmu @fesshole I didn't say they want to expose you to a cognitohazard or deskill you. I said it's reasonable and ethical to protect yourself from these things by diverting their irresponsible spending to something that doesn't harm you and keeps you employed.

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                        • alexmu@social.vivaldi.netA alexmu@social.vivaldi.net

                          @fesshole that is genuinely horrific. Those tokens you burn are actual resources in the real world, like water and fossil fuels.

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                          @alexmu @fesshole We are forced to live in a world where we have to contribute to atrocities in order to survive.

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                          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                            @alexmu @fesshole I didn't say they want to expose you to a cognitohazard or deskill you. I said it's reasonable and ethical to protect yourself from these things by diverting their irresponsible spending to something that doesn't harm you and keeps you employed.

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                            @dalias @fesshole is it really mandatory? Have you taken it up with the employer? How do your workmates feel about it? Have you talked to them? If the employer is threatening to fire you because you don't use llms then there are labour laws that can protect you (at least in the civilized countries).

                            Even if you are forced to use llms, you can do it in more productive ways. Use it to save work if you can, and use the spare time to join/form a union, raise awareness with your peers on how this is damaging to their careers, do something that actually has a chance of changing things.

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                            • alexmu@social.vivaldi.netA alexmu@social.vivaldi.net

                              @dalias @fesshole is it really mandatory? Have you taken it up with the employer? How do your workmates feel about it? Have you talked to them? If the employer is threatening to fire you because you don't use llms then there are labour laws that can protect you (at least in the civilized countries).

                              Even if you are forced to use llms, you can do it in more productive ways. Use it to save work if you can, and use the spare time to join/form a union, raise awareness with your peers on how this is damaging to their careers, do something that actually has a chance of changing things.

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                              @alexmu @fesshole Those are not more productive ways, they're more brain rotting ways. And even if they were productive, you have no moral duty to maximize productivity for your employer at the expense of your cognitive facilities.

                              Yes, enployers are threatening to lay off employees based on low "AI" usage metrics. What rock have you been living under?

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                              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                Forced to use AI at work, hate it. Usage is monitored so I can't avoid it. I've set up mine to play a Sim City clone. It burns through tokens, making crap cities that quickly go bankrupt. Just been told that I'm getting a bonus for being a top user.

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                                @fesshole

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                                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                  @alexmu @fesshole Those are not more productive ways, they're more brain rotting ways. And even if they were productive, you have no moral duty to maximize productivity for your employer at the expense of your cognitive facilities.

                                  Yes, enployers are threatening to lay off employees based on low "AI" usage metrics. What rock have you been living under?

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                                  @dalias @fesshole ok, carry on doing your thing then.

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                                  • weizenspreu@chaos.socialW weizenspreu@chaos.social

                                    @dalias @alexmu @fesshole Calling it „probably made up“ because of your personal risk assessment strikes me as weird nevertheless.

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                                    @weizenspreu @dalias @alexmu @fesshole I think your being a bit dramatic. He said “probably “ , it was never presented to you as a fact. He didn’t say “he knew it was fake” or “anyone can tell it’s not real” he just said there was a higher chance it was fake and a reason why he thought that.

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                                    • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

                                      @funnymonkey @dalias @alexmu @fesshole I love it.

                                      It does what satire should do. Punch up.

                                      The trouble is now telling satire from reality.

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                                      @knowprose

                                      Satire in 2026 is a very tough gig. It reminds me of the person that set up a fake ICE tip line, and his most brutal satire is when he just repeats what the callers said to him.

                                      @dalias @alexmu @fesshole

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                                        @j0ebaldw1n @mirabilos @fesshole

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                                        • edbruce@infosec.exchangeE edbruce@infosec.exchange

                                          @j0ebaldw1n @mirabilos @fesshole

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                                          @EdBruce @j0ebaldw1n @fesshole no pity. I did lose my job due to it.

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