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  • corb_the_lesser@mastodon.socialC corb_the_lesser@mastodon.social

    @madeindex Assumes Reddit is a good thing.

    I've blocked a number of Lemmy servers thanks to inane/feral posts. I.e., if everything I see from a server is something I don't want to see, I'll fix it so I don't have to see it.

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    @Corb_The_Lesser πŸ˜‹ makes sense πŸ™‚

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    • soaproot@sfba.socialS soaproot@sfba.social

      @madeindex The other replies on this thread have covered a lot of the topic and I'll also mention #threadiverse projects like PieFed and KBin/Mbin as alternatives. (I'm not close enough to any of this to have much of an opinion, however).

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      @soaproot Did not know about these! They seem pretty cool, will check them out when I can πŸ™‚
      https://join.piefed.social/
      https://joinmbin.org/
      (couldn't find KBin though)

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      • guyjantic@infosec.exchangeG guyjantic@infosec.exchange

        @rl_dane @madeindex @patrickleavy I was initially on lemmy.ml, and holy cow that is the vibe. Constant posting about this and related issues, and angry little mobs if anyone disagrees.

        Note: Someone here on masto told me a few weeks ago that *.ml instances of lemmy tend to be tanky-heavy, while others might not be.

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        @guyjantic Sorry to hear that!
        That sounds a whole lot like a big part of Reddit πŸ˜‰
        @rl_dane @patrickleavy

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        • guyjantic@infosec.exchangeG guyjantic@infosec.exchange

          @patrickleavy @rl_dane @madeindex I asked a few people a couple of weeks ago and got some great recommendations. One was infosec.pub, run by the same person who runs infosec.exchange (my masto instance, and I very much like it). Other suggestions included

          lemmy.world
          retrolemmy.com (retro tech or gaming focused)
          discuss.online
          lemmy.ca (Canadian)

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          @guyjantic @patrickleavy @rl_dane πŸ‘ @soaproot also mentioned:
          https://join.piefed.social/
          https://joinmbin.org/

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          • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

            @soaproot Did not know about these! They seem pretty cool, will check them out when I can πŸ™‚
            https://join.piefed.social/
            https://joinmbin.org/
            (couldn't find KBin though)

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            @madeindex KBin is apparently gone, as far as I could tell from https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core and what is linked from there, so it looks like I could have just said "MBin" rather than "MBin/KBin".

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            • soaproot@sfba.socialS soaproot@sfba.social

              @madeindex KBin is apparently gone, as far as I could tell from https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core and what is linked from there, so it looks like I could have just said "MBin" rather than "MBin/KBin".

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              @soaproot Thank you for checking πŸ™‚

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              • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                @guyjantic @patrickleavy @rl_dane πŸ‘ @soaproot also mentioned:
                https://join.piefed.social/
                https://joinmbin.org/

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                @madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot piefed looks good but it doesn't appear to display the images by default. Other instances do. is that a thing?

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                • patrickleavy@mastodon.socialP patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                  @madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot piefed looks good but it doesn't appear to display the images by default. Other instances do. is that a thing?

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                  @madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot ideally i'd find a server that's focus is digital privacy and anti-bigtech. But that's pretty niche.

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                  • patrickleavy@mastodon.socialP patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                    @madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot piefed looks good but it doesn't appear to display the images by default. Other instances do. is that a thing?

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                    @patrickleavy
                    Not exactly sure what you mean, it does display the images in the preview & on click for me: https://piefed.social
                    @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot

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                    • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                      @patrickleavy
                      Not exactly sure what you mean, it does display the images in the preview & on click for me: https://piefed.social
                      @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot

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                      @madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot oh yeah so it does - must have been just Vivaldi on linux.... displays fine on mobile and on Ironfox. 🀷🏼
                      Do you know what piefed's initial ethos /reason for being set up was?

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                      • soaproot@sfba.socialS soaproot@sfba.social

                        @madeindex The other replies on this thread have covered a lot of the topic and I'll also mention #threadiverse projects like PieFed and KBin/Mbin as alternatives. (I'm not close enough to any of this to have much of an opinion, however).

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                        @madeindex @soaproot I've used piefed before, it's very nice. Ended up recommending it to my friend as a reddit replacement and they like it.
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                        • guyjantic@infosec.exchangeG guyjantic@infosec.exchange

                          @patrickleavy @rl_dane @madeindex I asked a few people a couple of weeks ago and got some great recommendations. One was infosec.pub, run by the same person who runs infosec.exchange (my masto instance, and I very much like it). Other suggestions included

                          lemmy.world
                          retrolemmy.com (retro tech or gaming focused)
                          discuss.online
                          lemmy.ca (Canadian)

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                          @guyjantic @patrickleavy @rl_dane @madeindex

                          Just learning "tankie." Shame it's even a thing.
                          I'm not very active on Lemmy but have no complaint with the vibe on:

                          slrpnk.net

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                            @tuckerm @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex oh it's an alternative to Lemmy? Does that mean it's based on mbin instead of (whether Lemmy is)?

                            I need to know this stuff as I'm trying to explain fediverse apps to people in a Signal 'privacy' chat and I want to make it as simple as possible.

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                            • patrickleavy@mastodon.socialP patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                              @tuckerm @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex oh it's an alternative to Lemmy? Does that mean it's based on mbin instead of (whether Lemmy is)?

                              I need to know this stuff as I'm trying to explain fediverse apps to people in a Signal 'privacy' chat and I want to make it as simple as possible.

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                              @patrickleavy @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex It's actually its own completely separate implementation, not based on Mbin.

                              Lemmy is written in rust, Mbin is in PHP, and Piefed is in python. There are probably forks of each one, but those are like the big three that were written from scratch.

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                              • tuckerm@saltylike.usT tuckerm@saltylike.us

                                @patrickleavy @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex It's actually its own completely separate implementation, not based on Mbin.

                                Lemmy is written in rust, Mbin is in PHP, and Piefed is in python. There are probably forks of each one, but those are like the big three that were written from scratch.

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                                @tuckerm @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex thank you, that's interesting... I was today years old when I learned that!
                                @brenetic did you know that?

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                                  @tuckerm Thank you for sharing your experience with us friend ❀

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                                  • patrickleavy@mastodon.socialP patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                                    @tuckerm @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex oh it's an alternative to Lemmy? Does that mean it's based on mbin instead of (whether Lemmy is)?

                                    I need to know this stuff as I'm trying to explain fediverse apps to people in a Signal 'privacy' chat and I want to make it as simple as possible.

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                                    @patrickleavy preach it friend! Keep up the good work ❀

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                                    • patrickleavy@mastodon.socialP patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                                      @tuckerm @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex oh it's an alternative to Lemmy? Does that mean it's based on mbin instead of (whether Lemmy is)?

                                      I need to know this stuff as I'm trying to explain fediverse apps to people in a Signal 'privacy' chat and I want to make it as simple as possible.

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                                      @patrickleavy@mastodon.social @madeindex@mastodon.social @rl_dane@polymaths.social @tuckerm@saltylike.us @guyjantic@infosec.exchange

                                      The following is from the top of my head while sporting a fever, accuracy not guaranteed.

                                      PieFed is a python script and separate from both kbin/mbin and lemmy. They all operate with "groups" instead of individual fedi actors like on Masto and the likes. Some call it "reddit style", I prefer Social Media Aggregator.

                                      It's possible to subscribe to any group actor (like PeerTube or across Lemmy/PieFed) through pie/mbin/kbin/lemmy but hard to follow individual actors from i.e. Mastodon from Pie and Lemmy. I've not tested k/mbin (one of them is abandoned, the other actively maintained).

                                      The "tankies" have taken on the Mali TLD (.ml) to symbolize Marxism-Leninism. Lemmygrad.ml being a notable example. Like with Masto, there's different instances dedicated to topics, geography or general topics.

                                      Lemmy cache (or at least did) all content unless the admin blocks the local storage. This fills up most small-scale, self-hosted instances as it's a chore to set up external storage compared to the ease of installation through i.e. YunoHost, ansible or Easy Deploy.

                                      The first time I hosted Lemmy I firehosed the lemmyverse and my server pushed 500GB of storage within a few weeks. Second time I was selective but the storage requirement became unsustainable after 6 months.

                                      I currently have a low-activity PieFed instance, it has hardly increased in size over the last month. For self-hosting I would absolutely recommend PieFed over lemmy. All Lemmy apps I've tried have also worked flawless with PieFed.

                                      Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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                                      • sarah@sosial.linkS sarah@sosial.link

                                        @patrickleavy@mastodon.social @madeindex@mastodon.social @rl_dane@polymaths.social @tuckerm@saltylike.us @guyjantic@infosec.exchange

                                        The following is from the top of my head while sporting a fever, accuracy not guaranteed.

                                        PieFed is a python script and separate from both kbin/mbin and lemmy. They all operate with "groups" instead of individual fedi actors like on Masto and the likes. Some call it "reddit style", I prefer Social Media Aggregator.

                                        It's possible to subscribe to any group actor (like PeerTube or across Lemmy/PieFed) through pie/mbin/kbin/lemmy but hard to follow individual actors from i.e. Mastodon from Pie and Lemmy. I've not tested k/mbin (one of them is abandoned, the other actively maintained).

                                        The "tankies" have taken on the Mali TLD (.ml) to symbolize Marxism-Leninism. Lemmygrad.ml being a notable example. Like with Masto, there's different instances dedicated to topics, geography or general topics.

                                        Lemmy cache (or at least did) all content unless the admin blocks the local storage. This fills up most small-scale, self-hosted instances as it's a chore to set up external storage compared to the ease of installation through i.e. YunoHost, ansible or Easy Deploy.

                                        The first time I hosted Lemmy I firehosed the lemmyverse and my server pushed 500GB of storage within a few weeks. Second time I was selective but the storage requirement became unsustainable after 6 months.

                                        I currently have a low-activity PieFed instance, it has hardly increased in size over the last month. For self-hosting I would absolutely recommend PieFed over lemmy. All Lemmy apps I've tried have also worked flawless with PieFed.

                                        Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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                                        @sarah @madeindex @rl_dane @tuckerm @guyjantic good info!

                                        This is a bit off topic, but do you reckon it would be possible to fork & adapt Piefed to make a 'Groups' software? Something federated that could provide the functionality of Facebook groups...

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                                        • patrickleavy@mastodon.socialP patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                                          @sarah @madeindex @rl_dane @tuckerm @guyjantic good info!

                                          This is a bit off topic, but do you reckon it would be possible to fork & adapt Piefed to make a 'Groups' software? Something federated that could provide the functionality of Facebook groups...

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                                          @patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                                          No idea as I've never seen a FB group.
                                          ​​ Friendica is described as the most Facebook-like and supports both individual users and groups.

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