🐭 Real question:
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Real question:Sometimes I read negative comments about #Lemmy or even calls to defederate...
Why do some people on the #Fediverse feel so strongly about Lemmy?
Isn't an #opensource alternative to #Reddit a good thing?
@madeindex Assumes Reddit is a good thing.
I've blocked a number of Lemmy servers thanks to inane/feral posts. I.e., if everything I see from a server is something I don't want to see, I'll fix it so I don't have to see it.
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Real question:
Sometimes I read negative comments about #Lemmy or even calls to defederate...
Why do some people on the #Fediverse feel so strongly about Lemmy?
Isn't an #opensource alternative to #Reddit a good thing?
@madeindex The other replies on this thread have covered a lot of the topic and I'll also mention #threadiverse projects like PieFed and KBin/Mbin as alternatives. (I'm not close enough to any of this to have much of an opinion, however).
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@rl_dane @madeindex @patrickleavy I was initially on lemmy.ml, and holy cow that is the vibe. Constant posting about this and related issues, and angry little mobs if anyone disagrees.
Note: Someone here on masto told me a few weeks ago that *.ml instances of lemmy tend to be tanky-heavy, while others might not be.
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@rl_dane @madeindex @patrickleavy I was initially on lemmy.ml, and holy cow that is the vibe. Constant posting about this and related issues, and angry little mobs if anyone disagrees.
Note: Someone here on masto told me a few weeks ago that *.ml instances of lemmy tend to be tanky-heavy, while others might not be.
@guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex any suggestions for less tankie instances? I joined ml as it said the focus was on digital privacy.
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@guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex any suggestions for less tankie instances? I joined ml as it said the focus was on digital privacy.
@patrickleavy @rl_dane @madeindex I asked a few people a couple of weeks ago and got some great recommendations. One was infosec.pub, run by the same person who runs infosec.exchange (my masto instance, and I very much like it). Other suggestions included
lemmy.world
retrolemmy.com (retro tech or gaming focused)
discuss.online
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@mkljczk @madeindex Was not aware of that.
Tried going down that rabbit hole.
- There seem to have been a thread on Reddit which does not exist anymore (/r/Lemmy is banned in general).
- Found a discussion on lemmy.world (from 3 years ago) which does not really have any real receipts other than people calling the devs Tankies.
- The devs seem to also run (or were running) Lemmygrad.ml which seems to be at the heart of the controversy (also read that Hexbear is also associated / mentioned)
I have no idea if the devs are still connected with Lemmygrad (or if they ever were) and don't know what they have said to be called tankies.
I'm not doubting it. It can be true or not or somewhere in between.
Personally I've mostly seen their project repo and comments on github. Very direct communication but as far as I've seen there were no politics involved.
My favorite instance is hosted by dbzer0.com - pretty sure they have some controversial stances too (not their main focus, but they tolerate AI, crypto).
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@madeindex Assumes Reddit is a good thing.
I've blocked a number of Lemmy servers thanks to inane/feral posts. I.e., if everything I see from a server is something I don't want to see, I'll fix it so I don't have to see it.
@Corb_The_Lesser
makes sense 
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@madeindex The other replies on this thread have covered a lot of the topic and I'll also mention #threadiverse projects like PieFed and KBin/Mbin as alternatives. (I'm not close enough to any of this to have much of an opinion, however).
@soaproot Did not know about these! They seem pretty cool, will check them out when I can
https://join.piefed.social/
https://joinmbin.org/
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@rl_dane @madeindex @patrickleavy I was initially on lemmy.ml, and holy cow that is the vibe. Constant posting about this and related issues, and angry little mobs if anyone disagrees.
Note: Someone here on masto told me a few weeks ago that *.ml instances of lemmy tend to be tanky-heavy, while others might not be.
@guyjantic Sorry to hear that!
That sounds a whole lot like a big part of Reddit
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@patrickleavy @rl_dane @madeindex I asked a few people a couple of weeks ago and got some great recommendations. One was infosec.pub, run by the same person who runs infosec.exchange (my masto instance, and I very much like it). Other suggestions included
lemmy.world
retrolemmy.com (retro tech or gaming focused)
discuss.online
lemmy.ca (Canadian) -
@soaproot Did not know about these! They seem pretty cool, will check them out when I can
https://join.piefed.social/
https://joinmbin.org/
(couldn't find KBin though)@madeindex KBin is apparently gone, as far as I could tell from https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core and what is linked from there, so it looks like I could have just said "MBin" rather than "MBin/KBin".
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@madeindex KBin is apparently gone, as far as I could tell from https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core and what is linked from there, so it looks like I could have just said "MBin" rather than "MBin/KBin".
@soaproot Thank you for checking
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@madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot piefed looks good but it doesn't appear to display the images by default. Other instances do. is that a thing?
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@madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot piefed looks good but it doesn't appear to display the images by default. Other instances do. is that a thing?
@madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot ideally i'd find a server that's focus is digital privacy and anti-bigtech. But that's pretty niche.
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@madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot piefed looks good but it doesn't appear to display the images by default. Other instances do. is that a thing?
@patrickleavy
Not exactly sure what you mean, it does display the images in the preview & on click for me: https://piefed.social
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@patrickleavy
Not exactly sure what you mean, it does display the images in the preview & on click for me: https://piefed.social
@guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot@madeindex @guyjantic @rl_dane @soaproot oh yeah so it does - must have been just Vivaldi on linux.... displays fine on mobile and on Ironfox.
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@madeindex The other replies on this thread have covered a lot of the topic and I'll also mention #threadiverse projects like PieFed and KBin/Mbin as alternatives. (I'm not close enough to any of this to have much of an opinion, however).
@madeindex @soaproot I've used piefed before, it's very nice. Ended up recommending it to my friend as a reddit replacement and they like it. -
@patrickleavy @rl_dane @madeindex I asked a few people a couple of weeks ago and got some great recommendations. One was infosec.pub, run by the same person who runs infosec.exchange (my masto instance, and I very much like it). Other suggestions included
lemmy.world
retrolemmy.com (retro tech or gaming focused)
discuss.online
lemmy.ca (Canadian)@guyjantic @patrickleavy @rl_dane @madeindex
Just learning "tankie." Shame it's even a thing.
I'm not very active on Lemmy but have no complaint with the vibe on:slrpnk.net
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@tuckerm @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex oh it's an alternative to Lemmy? Does that mean it's based on mbin instead of (whether Lemmy is)?
I need to know this stuff as I'm trying to explain fediverse apps to people in a Signal 'privacy' chat and I want to make it as simple as possible.
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@tuckerm @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex oh it's an alternative to Lemmy? Does that mean it's based on mbin instead of (whether Lemmy is)?
I need to know this stuff as I'm trying to explain fediverse apps to people in a Signal 'privacy' chat and I want to make it as simple as possible.
@patrickleavy @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex It's actually its own completely separate implementation, not based on Mbin.
Lemmy is written in rust, Mbin is in PHP, and Piefed is in python. There are probably forks of each one, but those are like the big three that were written from scratch.
