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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @falseknees

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    Bird neurons use three times less glucose than mammalian neurons

    Birds have impressive cognitive abilities and show a high level of intelligence. Compared to mammals of about the same size, the brains of birds also contain many more neurons. Now a new study reported in Current Biology on September 8 helps to explain how birds can afford to maintain more brain cells: their neurons get by on less fuel in the form of glucose.

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    1. bird brains (no pun intended) use 1/3 the glucose mammalian brains do

    2. the neurons are packed tighter, are smaller

    "the neurons consume less glucose—this could have been expected by differences in the size of their neurons," says Kaya von Eugen of Ruhr University Bochum, Germany. "But the magnitude of difference is so large that the size difference cannot be the only contributing factor"

    birds are our cognitive superiors

    they have more advanced CPUs

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    @benroyce @falseknees totally agree, but then, two of my 3 key spirit animals are birds (owl and woodpecker) and my IQ is up there in the sky as well, so...

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    • tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.usT tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.us

      @benroyce @leeloo @falseknees dude, I watched a bluejay try to raid a junco nest yesterday and the robins stepped in and were the biggest badass bouncers you could ever imagine. I thought crows were tough but these robins... they're like knights of the round table out here

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      @tamarasellman @leeloo @falseknees

      and corvids return the favor up the size ladder

      i mean on the issue of intelligence: we figured out how to ride horses

      how terrifying would it be to see a bunch of eagles on the horizon ridden by crows?

      give it a few millennia of evolution...

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      • tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.usT tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.us

        @benroyce @leeloo @falseknees dude, I watched a bluejay try to raid a junco nest yesterday and the robins stepped in and were the biggest badass bouncers you could ever imagine. I thought crows were tough but these robins... they're like knights of the round table out here

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        @tamarasellman @benroyce @leeloo @falseknees I have seen a robin snatch a wolf spider and eat it whole...

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        • tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.usT tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.us

          @benroyce @falseknees totally agree, but then, two of my 3 key spirit animals are birds (owl and woodpecker) and my IQ is up there in the sky as well, so...

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          @tamarasellman @falseknees

          you're a bird brain! in the most complementary sense

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          • falseknees@mastodon.socialF falseknees@mastodon.social

            Intelligent

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            Stop avianmorphizing me!
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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @falseknees

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              Bird neurons use three times less glucose than mammalian neurons

              Birds have impressive cognitive abilities and show a high level of intelligence. Compared to mammals of about the same size, the brains of birds also contain many more neurons. Now a new study reported in Current Biology on September 8 helps to explain how birds can afford to maintain more brain cells: their neurons get by on less fuel in the form of glucose.

              favicon

              (phys.org)

              1. bird brains (no pun intended) use 1/3 the glucose mammalian brains do

              2. the neurons are packed tighter, are smaller

              "the neurons consume less glucose—this could have been expected by differences in the size of their neurons," says Kaya von Eugen of Ruhr University Bochum, Germany. "But the magnitude of difference is so large that the size difference cannot be the only contributing factor"

              birds are our cognitive superiors

              they have more advanced CPUs

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              @benroyce @falseknees
              Makes ya wonder about how we always criticize the non-avian dinosaurs for having had small brains. Maybe theirs were on a par with the avians. Being a large predator, like a t-rex, would require some brain power.

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @tamarasellman @leeloo @falseknees

                and corvids return the favor up the size ladder

                i mean on the issue of intelligence: we figured out how to ride horses

                how terrifying would it be to see a bunch of eagles on the horizon ridden by crows?

                give it a few millennia of evolution...

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                @benroyce @tamarasellman @leeloo @falseknees

                Whoah! Ben, you've just described the next blockbuster movie!

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                • qurlyjoe@mstdn.socialQ qurlyjoe@mstdn.social

                  @benroyce @falseknees
                  Makes ya wonder about how we always criticize the non-avian dinosaurs for having had small brains. Maybe theirs were on a par with the avians. Being a large predator, like a t-rex, would require some brain power.

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                  @qurlyjoe @falseknees

                  the #evolution of any animal is always rewarding any mutation that cuts down on energy use. that will drive smaller more efficient brains like with birds

                  but us humans are weirdos in that we instead made bigger brains that use a lot of calories, but we used those bigger brains to hack the natural world and deliver us massive amounts of calories

                  we're the " #AI #dataCenter" model for evolution 🥴

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @qurlyjoe @falseknees

                    the #evolution of any animal is always rewarding any mutation that cuts down on energy use. that will drive smaller more efficient brains like with birds

                    but us humans are weirdos in that we instead made bigger brains that use a lot of calories, but we used those bigger brains to hack the natural world and deliver us massive amounts of calories

                    we're the " #AI #dataCenter" model for evolution 🥴

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                    @benroyce @qurlyjoe @falseknees

                    agent smith sez we're a virus.

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                    • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                      @benroyce @qurlyjoe @falseknees

                      agent smith sez we're a virus.

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                      @saltywizard @qurlyjoe @falseknees

                      we really are. we're a scourge. we break the natural world's dictum of "use only what you need and save your energy"

                      we're like "nah we're going to waste like crazy and consume like crazy"

                      and that fucking worked

                      ...so far

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                      • oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce @tamarasellman @leeloo @falseknees

                        Whoah! Ben, you've just described the next blockbuster movie!

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                        @oldclumsy_nowmad @tamarasellman @leeloo @falseknees

                        i made an appointment at a hollywood studio

                        you and i are going to pitch our movie idea together

                        the pitch is going to be simple:

                        i say

                        "planet of the apes"

                        then you say

                        "but with birds"

                        they'll write us a check on the spot for $300 million dollars to make it

                        🤭

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @qurlyjoe @falseknees

                          the #evolution of any animal is always rewarding any mutation that cuts down on energy use. that will drive smaller more efficient brains like with birds

                          but us humans are weirdos in that we instead made bigger brains that use a lot of calories, but we used those bigger brains to hack the natural world and deliver us massive amounts of calories

                          we're the " #AI #dataCenter" model for evolution 🥴

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                          @benroyce @qurlyjoe @falseknees Big brains are no fun to fly around with.
                          Homo Naledi was also getting smaller brains, on their way back into the trees. Perhaps to have faster response times between the branches, who will tell? Too bad that was a dead end as well.

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                          • falseknees@mastodon.socialF falseknees@mastodon.social

                            Intelligent

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                            @falseknees What happens when you try...

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @saltywizard @qurlyjoe @falseknees

                              we really are. we're a scourge. we break the natural world's dictum of "use only what you need and save your energy"

                              we're like "nah we're going to waste like crazy and consume like crazy"

                              and that fucking worked

                              ...so far

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                              @benroyce So far.

                              @saltywizard @falseknees

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @qurlyjoe @falseknees

                                the #evolution of any animal is always rewarding any mutation that cuts down on energy use. that will drive smaller more efficient brains like with birds

                                but us humans are weirdos in that we instead made bigger brains that use a lot of calories, but we used those bigger brains to hack the natural world and deliver us massive amounts of calories

                                we're the " #AI #dataCenter" model for evolution 🥴

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                                @benroyce @falseknees
                                “we're the " #AI #dataCenter" model for evolution”🎯

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                                • qurlyjoe@mstdn.socialQ qurlyjoe@mstdn.social

                                  @benroyce So far.

                                  @saltywizard @falseknees

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                                  @qurlyjoe @benroyce @falseknees

                                  <dissonant chord emoji>

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                                  • falseknees@mastodon.socialF falseknees@mastodon.social

                                    Intelligent

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                                    @falseknees
                                    They're so right.

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                                    • peterblok@toot.communityP peterblok@toot.community

                                      @benroyce @qurlyjoe @falseknees Big brains are no fun to fly around with.
                                      Homo Naledi was also getting smaller brains, on their way back into the trees. Perhaps to have faster response times between the branches, who will tell? Too bad that was a dead end as well.

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                                      @PeterBlok @qurlyjoe @falseknees

                                      simians say MORE BRAIN MORE POWER

                                      and it works

                                      but then we reach endgame where we dominate all and there's not much more to consume

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                                      • falseknees@mastodon.socialF falseknees@mastodon.social

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                                        @falseknees ping @guenterhack

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                                          @falseknees I love this so much

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