Ok you guys I just found out about a thing called the Eurobox and now I'm really upset that we don't have them over here in North America.

[me_valentijn@m.ai6yr.org]

@ai6yr @clew @tezoatlipoca
We get these from one of the major Dutch grocery stores with our deliveries. The deposit for each is credited when we return the empty ones during the next delivery.

Presumably the full ones stack nicely in the delivery vans.

[johntinker@hear-me.social]

@tezoatlipoca
Similar units do exist in the US. They are used for transporting merchandise. The ones that I am familiar with are slightly tapered vertically so that they nest when stacked empty.

[cpm@spore.social]

@ai6yr
I have 1, that's "one", eurobox folding stackable crate.

40x30x17cm

love it, very strong, well built.
want many more, you know, for my #cargobike.

then I found some! Yay!
bought 16, complete with storage bags, some 'soft cooler' inserts, etc, to use for catering runs (when I was still doing that on my bike)

good price too!

but they were not that, at all.

serviceable, but awkwardly sized, flimsy, facsimiles from China.

Oh well

@tezoatlipoca

[jmax@mastodon.social]

@tezoatlipoca Milk crates.

[cpm@spore.social]

@ai6yr
yeah
the one I have is very much akin to the ifco containers.

again, ifco is a closed loop, leased product line aimed at larger scale orgs.

considerably more sensible than 1way single use containers, esp in the food side of logistics

bit out of reach for us regular folks
@clew @tezoatlipoca

[zl2tod@mastodon.online]

@tezoatlipoca

Many power tool manufacturers make similar systems which are available worldwide.

[kitten_tech@fosstodon.org]

@tezoatlipoca ah yes, @Saffy and I use those for our various endeavours. I've built custom racks for them in our van and workshop, and a little hand cart they stack onto for transport. The crates have multiple competing suppliers, being a standard, so good quality ones can be had cheaply!

[jspath55@chaos.social]

@tezoatlipoca Raise your hand if, somewhere in your storage matrix, you have a crate labeled "Property of USPS."

[jspath55@chaos.social]

@clew @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca I have a couple of these *folding* stacking crates. Looks like Target is dropping them, so might get a few more.
(They have a rail for hanging folders, imperial size).

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@jspath55 @clew @tezoatlipoca The thing about the Eurocrate thing is they are standard sizes and (I assume) don't change from season to season. I notice stuff at Target/etc. all changes every six months depending on the fashion of the time... the problem of course is 2 years later you want another one, and you can't find anything that matches!

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@cpm @tezoatlipoca The IFCO's are 40x60xheight cm (with varying heights). At least the one I ran across, lol.

[jspath55@chaos.social]

@ai6yr @clew @tezoatlipoca Right, that's why I need to get "more of the same'" while they last (I had omitted this salient detail: *clearance*).

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@jspath55 @clew @tezoatlipoca Oh, that's a great price! Yeah, if you can get enough for your needs that's reasonable, just knowing you won't be able to restock later.

[cpm@spore.social]

@ai6yr
yes

the 40x60xX still nest with the 40x30xX

that's the beauty of that system.
And
*AND*
they publish stacking height:weight parameters

good stuff

further
for food:ag
they go right through that big hobart washer:steam sterilizer
@tezoatlipoca

[cpm@spore.social]

@ai6yr
fwiw

my 40x30x17cm

@tezoatlipoca

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@cpm @tezoatlipoca Oooh, nice! Is that just strapped down to a rack? Or is it secured in another way?

[lev1a@norden.social]

@cpm @ai6yr Unfortunately for you, the foldable crates ( https://www.europoolsystem.com/trays/ ) I sometimes work with in my job are -AFAIK- not for sale. They can carry a lot, fold down pretty small, are sized for Euro-pallets (4x 60cmx40cm fills the base area perfectly). Maybe there's an equivalent in the US?

[clew@ecoevo.social]

I’d be so happy to beep in my good-crate number when I left the grocery (and when I came back with one)

not too big for a rear rack even

@cpm @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

[clew@ecoevo.social]

The industrial stuff is standardized too, like Cambros and sheet pans

But domestic furniture is often a leetle too small, often justifiably

@ai6yr @jspath55 @tezoatlipoca

[cpm@spore.social]

@ai6yr
just bungee'd on.
@tezoatlipoca