Ok you guys I just found out about a thing called the Eurobox and now I'm really upset that we don't have them over here in North America.

[clew@ecoevo.social]

This isn’t as nuts as it sounds — the ones the cartel owns all have RFID and are for

A) tracking food backwards if people get sick but

B) fixing the problem that the unbroken crates vanish from the system and the dinged up barely usable ones are somehow the only ones in the system, especially for honest users.

(You probably know someone who has had to keep track of the Good Pallets; same problem.)

@ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@clew @tezoatlipoca The one I ran across in the US is "IFCO". Collapsible, heavy duty, extremely standard size.

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[clew@ecoevo.social]

Lots of plastic crates in the us are standardized to US pallet size, though there are least two similar sizes, the smaller of which will leave a square in the middle empty (vegetable ventilation).

on futher thought: no I think they’re the same sizes arranged differently

Not so standardized that you want to stack trugs from different manufacturers on the same pallet full, but close
@ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

[hayiwena@mastodon.online]

@ai6yr @tezoatlipoca You can get them here from Grainger. That's where I got mine for my GSD front rack. https://www.grainger.com/category/material-handling/storage-workspace/storage-containers-bins/totes-storage-boxes/straight-wall-containers-lids/straight-wall-containers?sst=4&tv_optin=true&searchBar=true&searchQuery=eurocrate

[msmerope@sfba.social]

@HayiWena @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

ummmm.....

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@MsMerope @HayiWena @tezoatlipoca Just a Mastodon preview problem

[littledaniel@sfba.social]

I keep a couple IFCO crates in the back of my car, rescued out of the dumpster of a local grocery store. Just because they're reusable doesn't mean stores and restaurants always take the time to give them back.
@ai6yr @clew @tezoatlipoca

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@littledaniel @clew @tezoatlipoca Oooh, SCORE!

[me_valentijn@m.ai6yr.org]

@ai6yr @clew @tezoatlipoca
We get these from one of the major Dutch grocery stores with our deliveries. The deposit for each is credited when we return the empty ones during the next delivery.

Presumably the full ones stack nicely in the delivery vans.

[johntinker@hear-me.social]

@tezoatlipoca
Similar units do exist in the US. They are used for transporting merchandise. The ones that I am familiar with are slightly tapered vertically so that they nest when stacked empty.

[cpm@spore.social]

@ai6yr
I have 1, that's "one", eurobox folding stackable crate.

40x30x17cm

love it, very strong, well built.
want many more, you know, for my #cargobike.

then I found some! Yay!
bought 16, complete with storage bags, some 'soft cooler' inserts, etc, to use for catering runs (when I was still doing that on my bike)

good price too!

but they were not that, at all.

serviceable, but awkwardly sized, flimsy, facsimiles from China.

Oh well

@tezoatlipoca

[jmax@mastodon.social]

@tezoatlipoca Milk crates.

[cpm@spore.social]

@ai6yr
yeah
the one I have is very much akin to the ifco containers.

again, ifco is a closed loop, leased product line aimed at larger scale orgs.

considerably more sensible than 1way single use containers, esp in the food side of logistics

bit out of reach for us regular folks
@clew @tezoatlipoca

[zl2tod@mastodon.online]

@tezoatlipoca

Many power tool manufacturers make similar systems which are available worldwide.

[kitten_tech@fosstodon.org]

@tezoatlipoca ah yes, @Saffy and I use those for our various endeavours. I've built custom racks for them in our van and workshop, and a little hand cart they stack onto for transport. The crates have multiple competing suppliers, being a standard, so good quality ones can be had cheaply!

[jspath55@chaos.social]

@tezoatlipoca Raise your hand if, somewhere in your storage matrix, you have a crate labeled "Property of USPS."

[jspath55@chaos.social]

@clew @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca I have a couple of these *folding* stacking crates. Looks like Target is dropping them, so might get a few more.
(They have a rail for hanging folders, imperial size).

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@jspath55 @clew @tezoatlipoca The thing about the Eurocrate thing is they are standard sizes and (I assume) don't change from season to season. I notice stuff at Target/etc. all changes every six months depending on the fashion of the time... the problem of course is 2 years later you want another one, and you can't find anything that matches!

[ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org]

@cpm @tezoatlipoca The IFCO's are 40x60xheight cm (with varying heights). At least the one I ran across, lol.

[jspath55@chaos.social]

@ai6yr @clew @tezoatlipoca Right, that's why I need to get "more of the same'" while they last (I had omitted this salient detail: *clearance*).