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Ok you guys I just found out about a thing called the Eurobox and now I'm really upset that we don't have them over here in North America.

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  • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

    @tezoatlipoca So, these exist in the US, but apparently are owned by some kind of crate cartel, and are only provided to "members", ie grocery store chains, produce vendors, etc. And require some kind of subscription membership. Very standard across companies, collapsible crates, all the same size. Reusable, etc.

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    @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca I've been buying flip top stackable crates from American Surplus and Global Industrial, and we're just a fledgling makerspace...

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    Similar enough?

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    • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

      @tezoatlipoca So, these exist in the US, but apparently are owned by some kind of crate cartel, and are only provided to "members", ie grocery store chains, produce vendors, etc. And require some kind of subscription membership. Very standard across companies, collapsible crates, all the same size. Reusable, etc.

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      This isn’t as nuts as it sounds — the ones the cartel owns all have RFID and are for

      A) tracking food backwards if people get sick but

      B) fixing the problem that the unbroken crates vanish from the system and the dinged up barely usable ones are somehow the only ones in the system, especially for honest users.

      (You probably know someone who has had to keep track of the Good Pallets; same problem.)

      @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

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      • clew@ecoevo.socialC clew@ecoevo.social

        This isn’t as nuts as it sounds — the ones the cartel owns all have RFID and are for

        A) tracking food backwards if people get sick but

        B) fixing the problem that the unbroken crates vanish from the system and the dinged up barely usable ones are somehow the only ones in the system, especially for honest users.

        (You probably know someone who has had to keep track of the Good Pallets; same problem.)

        @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

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        @clew @tezoatlipoca The one I ran across in the US is "IFCO". Collapsible, heavy duty, extremely standard size.

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        Explore our Products | IFCO

        Find the most fitting solution for your fresh grocery supply needs with our Reusable Packaging Containers.

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        IFCO Systems (www.ifco.com)

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        • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

          @clew @tezoatlipoca The one I ran across in the US is "IFCO". Collapsible, heavy duty, extremely standard size.

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          Explore our Products | IFCO

          Find the most fitting solution for your fresh grocery supply needs with our Reusable Packaging Containers.

          favicon

          IFCO Systems (www.ifco.com)

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          Lots of plastic crates in the us are standardized to US pallet size, though there are least two similar sizes, the smaller of which will leave a square in the middle empty (vegetable ventilation).

          on futher thought: no I think they’re the same sizes arranged differently

          Not so standardized that you want to stack trugs from different manufacturers on the same pallet full, but close
          @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

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          • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

            @tezoatlipoca So, these exist in the US, but apparently are owned by some kind of crate cartel, and are only provided to "members", ie grocery store chains, produce vendors, etc. And require some kind of subscription membership. Very standard across companies, collapsible crates, all the same size. Reusable, etc.

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            @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca You can get them here from Grainger. That's where I got mine for my GSD front rack. https://www.grainger.com/category/material-handling/storage-workspace/storage-containers-bins/totes-storage-boxes/straight-wall-containers-lids/straight-wall-containers?sst=4&tv_optin=true&searchBar=true&searchQuery=eurocrate

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            • hayiwena@mastodon.onlineH hayiwena@mastodon.online

              @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca You can get them here from Grainger. That's where I got mine for my GSD front rack. https://www.grainger.com/category/material-handling/storage-workspace/storage-containers-bins/totes-storage-boxes/straight-wall-containers-lids/straight-wall-containers?sst=4&tv_optin=true&searchBar=true&searchQuery=eurocrate

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              @HayiWena @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

              ummmm..... 🔎

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                @HayiWena @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

                ummmm..... 🔎

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                @MsMerope @HayiWena @tezoatlipoca Just a Mastodon preview problem

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                • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                  @clew @tezoatlipoca The one I ran across in the US is "IFCO". Collapsible, heavy duty, extremely standard size.

                  Link Preview Image
                  Explore our Products | IFCO

                  Find the most fitting solution for your fresh grocery supply needs with our Reusable Packaging Containers.

                  favicon

                  IFCO Systems (www.ifco.com)

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                  I keep a couple IFCO crates in the back of my car, rescued out of the dumpster of a local grocery store. Just because they're reusable doesn't mean stores and restaurants always take the time to give them back.
                  @ai6yr @clew @tezoatlipoca

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                  • littledaniel@sfba.socialL littledaniel@sfba.social

                    I keep a couple IFCO crates in the back of my car, rescued out of the dumpster of a local grocery store. Just because they're reusable doesn't mean stores and restaurants always take the time to give them back.
                    @ai6yr @clew @tezoatlipoca

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                    @littledaniel @clew @tezoatlipoca Oooh, SCORE!

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                    • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                      @clew @tezoatlipoca The one I ran across in the US is "IFCO". Collapsible, heavy duty, extremely standard size.

                      Link Preview Image
                      Explore our Products | IFCO

                      Find the most fitting solution for your fresh grocery supply needs with our Reusable Packaging Containers.

                      favicon

                      IFCO Systems (www.ifco.com)

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                      @ai6yr @clew @tezoatlipoca
                      We get these from one of the major Dutch grocery stores with our deliveries. The deposit for each is credited when we return the empty ones during the next delivery.

                      Presumably the full ones stack nicely in the delivery vans.

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                      • tezoatlipoca@mas.toT tezoatlipoca@mas.to

                        RE: https://furry.engineer/@Jencen/116230174130792389

                        Ok you guys I just found out about a thing called the Eurobox and now I'm really upset that we don't have them over here in North America.

                        Modularized, standardized, stackable totes.

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                        @tezoatlipoca
                        Similar units do exist in the US. They are used for transporting merchandise. The ones that I am familiar with are slightly tapered vertically so that they nest when stacked empty.

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                        • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                          @tezoatlipoca So, these exist in the US, but apparently are owned by some kind of crate cartel, and are only provided to "members", ie grocery store chains, produce vendors, etc. And require some kind of subscription membership. Very standard across companies, collapsible crates, all the same size. Reusable, etc.

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                          @ai6yr
                          I have 1, that's "one", eurobox folding stackable crate.

                          40x30x17cm

                          love it, very strong, well built.
                          want many more, you know, for my #cargobike.

                          then I found some! Yay!
                          bought 16, complete with storage bags, some 'soft cooler' inserts, etc, to use for catering runs (when I was still doing that on my bike)

                          good price too!

                          but they were not that, at all.

                          serviceable, but awkwardly sized, flimsy, facsimiles from China.

                          Oh well

                          @tezoatlipoca

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                          • tezoatlipoca@mas.toT tezoatlipoca@mas.to

                            RE: https://furry.engineer/@Jencen/116230174130792389

                            Ok you guys I just found out about a thing called the Eurobox and now I'm really upset that we don't have them over here in North America.

                            Modularized, standardized, stackable totes.

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                            @tezoatlipoca Milk crates.

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                            • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                              @clew @tezoatlipoca The one I ran across in the US is "IFCO". Collapsible, heavy duty, extremely standard size.

                              Link Preview Image
                              Explore our Products | IFCO

                              Find the most fitting solution for your fresh grocery supply needs with our Reusable Packaging Containers.

                              favicon

                              IFCO Systems (www.ifco.com)

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                              @ai6yr
                              yeah
                              the one I have is very much akin to the ifco containers.

                              again, ifco is a closed loop, leased product line aimed at larger scale orgs.

                              considerably more sensible than 1way single use containers, esp in the food side of logistics

                              bit out of reach for us regular folks
                              @clew @tezoatlipoca

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                              • tezoatlipoca@mas.toT tezoatlipoca@mas.to

                                RE: https://furry.engineer/@Jencen/116230174130792389

                                Ok you guys I just found out about a thing called the Eurobox and now I'm really upset that we don't have them over here in North America.

                                Modularized, standardized, stackable totes.

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                                @tezoatlipoca

                                Many power tool manufacturers make similar systems which are available worldwide.

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                                • tezoatlipoca@mas.toT tezoatlipoca@mas.to

                                  RE: https://furry.engineer/@Jencen/116230174130792389

                                  Ok you guys I just found out about a thing called the Eurobox and now I'm really upset that we don't have them over here in North America.

                                  Modularized, standardized, stackable totes.

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                                  @tezoatlipoca ah yes, @Saffy and I use those for our various endeavours. I've built custom racks for them in our van and workshop, and a little hand cart they stack onto for transport. The crates have multiple competing suppliers, being a standard, so good quality ones can be had cheaply!

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                                  • tezoatlipoca@mas.toT tezoatlipoca@mas.to

                                    RE: https://furry.engineer/@Jencen/116230174130792389

                                    Ok you guys I just found out about a thing called the Eurobox and now I'm really upset that we don't have them over here in North America.

                                    Modularized, standardized, stackable totes.

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                                    @tezoatlipoca Raise your hand if, somewhere in your storage matrix, you have a crate labeled "Property of USPS." 📦

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                                    • clew@ecoevo.socialC clew@ecoevo.social

                                      Lots of plastic crates in the us are standardized to US pallet size, though there are least two similar sizes, the smaller of which will leave a square in the middle empty (vegetable ventilation).

                                      on futher thought: no I think they’re the same sizes arranged differently

                                      Not so standardized that you want to stack trugs from different manufacturers on the same pallet full, but close
                                      @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca

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                                      @clew @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca I have a couple of these *folding* stacking crates. Looks like Target is dropping them, so might get a few more.
                                      (They have a rail for hanging folders, imperial size).

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                                      • jspath55@chaos.socialJ jspath55@chaos.social

                                        @clew @ai6yr @tezoatlipoca I have a couple of these *folding* stacking crates. Looks like Target is dropping them, so might get a few more.
                                        (They have a rail for hanging folders, imperial size).

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                                        @jspath55 @clew @tezoatlipoca The thing about the Eurocrate thing is they are standard sizes and (I assume) don't change from season to season. I notice stuff at Target/etc. all changes every six months depending on the fashion of the time... the problem of course is 2 years later you want another one, and you can't find anything that matches!

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                                        • cpm@spore.socialC cpm@spore.social

                                          @ai6yr
                                          I have 1, that's "one", eurobox folding stackable crate.

                                          40x30x17cm

                                          love it, very strong, well built.
                                          want many more, you know, for my #cargobike.

                                          then I found some! Yay!
                                          bought 16, complete with storage bags, some 'soft cooler' inserts, etc, to use for catering runs (when I was still doing that on my bike)

                                          good price too!

                                          but they were not that, at all.

                                          serviceable, but awkwardly sized, flimsy, facsimiles from China.

                                          Oh well

                                          @tezoatlipoca

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                                          @cpm @tezoatlipoca The IFCO's are 40x60xheight cm (with varying heights). At least the one I ran across, lol.

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