The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it.
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
@grumpygamer my strategy is to use the popular tools to communicate and collaborate with normies, but to keep my personal data in places I trust. For example, use Google drive to collaborate on a shared spreadsheet, but use Libreoffice for any sensitive spreadsheets that only you use
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
sole argument that really worked for me so far (on the job):
"Sorry, it is illegal for me to use googledoc/dropbox/... I am fine with cryptpad or can provide you access to our GDPR compliant collabora/nextcloud/... tool. -
The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
@grumpygamer Thats the wrong approach.
You create an account for them and say "Here, there you go, log in and change your password after first login".
On the other hand, i never had any company ever that used Discord.
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@grumpygamer "network effects" are a killer! kinda means an alternative needs to be overwhelmingly better all at once to make a dent, which rarely happens.
@jplebreton @grumpygamer Isn't this the same argument people use to stay on Twitter?
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The problem with ditching services like Discord or Google Docs or Dropbox isn't me, I'm happy to do it. It's everyones I need to work with. They aren't going to join my self-hosted service just to exchange work files or chat, etc. I've tried.
@grumpygamer Does anyone still know how to upload to an FTP server, perhaps?
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@jplebreton @grumpygamer Isn't this the same argument people use to stay on Twitter?
@grumpygamer @skylark13 we're having this conversation on mastodon so obviously we three see the importance of moving to alternatives. i'm just pointing out that getting the masses to switch with us is a challenging social problem.
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@grumpygamer @skylark13 we're having this conversation on mastodon so obviously we three see the importance of moving to alternatives. i'm just pointing out that getting the masses to switch with us is a challenging social problem.
@jplebreton @grumpygamer Well, yeah, that's what I was wondering about. It's a hard problem but it has to start somewhere, and I think you two (and others) can be drivers since people will want to work with you.
Let's keep it up!
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