Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

[outfrost@mastodon.social]

@lumi @nina_kali_nina @tragivictoria we're gonna have to get so much louder and more annoying about this

people who i followed on twitch cause i thought they were cool are now slop sludging *jam games*

i genuinely think bullying sloperators is morally correct. their excuses are always such slop too, they're liars cause they'll never admit they just wanna do the bad thing and don't have a singular fuck to give about the world around them

[f4grx@chaos.social]

@lumi @nina_kali_nina yes. It'd sad. But we stay strong together #noai

[f4grx@chaos.social]

@kirtai @nina_kali_nina the US supreme court ruled again recently that LLM output is NOT copyrightable.

[bstacey@icosahedron.website]

@nina_kali_nina ... WTF do we do?

Stay alive until the subsidies run out and it's too expensive to lean on the de-skilling machines any longer?

[f4grx@chaos.social]

@nina_kali_nina @kirtai https://www.techspot.com/news/111553-us-supreme-court-not-interested-enforcing-copyright-ai.html it was for pics, but code is similar.

[troublewithwords@wandering.shop]

@nina_kali_nina
> It's free for all now, it seems.

It feels encumbered, just in a different, possibly much worse way.

[cinebox@masto.hackers.town]

@nina_kali_nina I’m considering giving up on programming altogether tbh. Why bother making more training data for these assholes?

[tryst@fedi.imu.li]

@lumi@snug.moe @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt @tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud yes this.

celebrate projects that take good stands.

[aks@scalie.zone]

@nina_kali_nina i used to find it sad. Then got bit angry. But now i just laugh. I laugh at the foolishness, the utter carelessnes.

Because thats all I can do without snapping completely. Well, i have already snapped. But you know.

I will continue to move slow and fix things. Let the hypefools ruin their codebases I guess.

[2something@transfem.social]

@njsg@mementomori.social @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

They've already telegraphed how they plan to do this: they want AI to be legal just as long as they have permission from the copyright-holder of the "training data." Then, the big publishers will make "we get to train our AI on your work" a part of their standard contract for writers, and the big tech companies will put "we get to train our AI on all your data" in their ToS agreements. Also, you'll be required to use one of the big tech companies' operating systems, since "identity verification" will ban other OSes.

Bam: LLMs are now legal, but only for big publishers or big tech companies.

[jigend@mastodon.social]

@nina_kali_nina I'd never want the world I knew to stay static. Change is inevitable. I don't think it's ever worth mourning the past for the past's sake.

But, you say existential crisis, is your problem because it is good or because it's bad?

I assume the latter (I still can't get AI to complete simple tasks correctly the majority of the time).

[alreadydeadxd@infosec.exchange]

@nina_kali_nina i don't know about these projects in particular, but not all llm use is automatically bad

[nobody@mastodon.acm.org]

@nina_kali_nina
SBOMs need a field for "contains slop" separate from "licenses"

[nobody@mastodon.acm.org]

@nina_kali_nina
Somebody with a white person passport start an EU Citizen Initiative to amend #CRA

[lunathemoongirl@cailincat.cloud]

@nina_kali_nina not sure if this helps or makes it worse but im not actually sure the blocked user trick is reliable. On some projects I got this warning and spent a few hours looking through commits without finding anything. And I did notice that it counts things as involving copilot even if it didn't do anything real. Like someone not a maintainer had opend a pull request and unintentionally(according to them) asked for a copilot Review. Which doesn't affect the project but Shows up in filters

So I don't know if I can actually trust this to find what's Ai touched and what isnt

[lunathemoongirl@cailincat.cloud]

@nina_kali_nina not to get conspiratorial but I guess companies like Microsoft also have an incentive to make you think everything is made by Ai and to not be able to tell.

The claude user profile itself also has no commits but shows up as author in like chardet. So idk it does seem to have wonky special rules. And maybe it gets into projects through being associated with the commits in some pull request and the maintainers couldnt tell?

I mean harfbuzz and chardet are very clear but others.

[stilic@piaille.fr]

@nina_kali_nina @moses_izumi @lumi There's FreeBSD too it seems
https://www.heise.de/en/news/FreeBSD-policy-AI-generated-source-code-No-thanks-10634141.html

[loredema@mastodon.online]

@nina_kali_nina I hear you. But consider this: like any other profession that creates thing, you can divide it into industrial and artisanal. You can produce stuff, or craft stuff. For software, this has just become more real, more relevant and more visible. You and some other gifted ones will remain artisans, crafting beautiful things. Software giants will spit out crappier software.

[loredema@mastodon.online]

@nina_kali_nina I really, really hope there will be some push to have “AI free” software and hardware recognized. Much like we have ogm free for food. So you can know and choose accordingly.

[benofbrown@toot.cat]

@nina_kali_nina @zbrown NetBSD was my first *nix¹, maybe I should have a look at it again

¹the first one I ran on my own hardware. My first experience was with HP-UX at a year in industry placement in the late '90s