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I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

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  • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

    @gleick
    Sorry, as an European he never was a good guy.

    Amazon was convenient and still is, for buying foreign language books, but convenience does not make it ethical.

    And me personal I was always sceptical of concentration benefits. As these bluntly lead to monopoly and that leads to extortion games to the disadvantage of the consumers, that's a given natural law, like apples fall from trees downwards.

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    @yacc143 @gleick

    That came later though.

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    • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

      I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

      Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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      @gleick

      Well, James, judging from many comments, no one is old enough to remember the more innocent days.
      As my Nice Ex, very geeky, remembers when PayPal seemed such a new, sweet initiative.

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      • megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.social

        @gleick

        The Bill Gates reality-distortion field is a persistent one, his PR people are very good at what they do.

        I keep getting warm fuzzies about him every now and again. He keeps recreating himself, like a rock-star re-styling.

        Then a memory or new fact drops, and I remember he's a greedy, ruthless, devious, self-serving thug.

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        @megatronicthronbanks @gleick Back in the last century there was a little documentary comparing him to STeve JObs and ... they were both manipulative greedy thiieves but Steve Jobs was a little crazier with wanting to take over the world.
        The damage he's done to education is the part I feel directly.

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        • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

          I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

          Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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          @gleick I'm so old I remember when Bill Gates... oh, no, he was always a complete and utter c**t, right from the start.

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          • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

            I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

            Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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            @gleick Imagine unironically calling an imperialist rag like WaPo one of history's "greatest" newspapers. 💀

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            • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

              @chardlee @gleick Only till the competition was dead.

              As a cynic, capitalism was much nicer to the peons until about the time the USSR collapsed.

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              @yacc143 @chardlee @gleick Yeah, that was kinda the whole point: be nice to the proles or we'll Romanov the upper class.

              And we fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

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              • blueorchestra@mastodon.socialB blueorchestra@mastodon.social

                @gleick Imagine unironically calling an imperialist rag like WaPo one of history's "greatest" newspapers. 💀

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                @blueorchestra It was. I gather that you have a short time horizon and don’t know much about, well, anything really.

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                • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                  I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                  Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                  @gleick I remember when Amazon and Chapters launched, and one of the founders (I'm forgetting which) talked openly about how the publishing industry and the system of book store returns ran more or less on an honour system and was ripe for exploitation.

                  They were never good guys.

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                  • blueorchestra@mastodon.socialB blueorchestra@mastodon.social

                    @gleick Imagine unironically calling an imperialist rag like WaPo one of history's "greatest" newspapers. 💀

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                    @blueorchestra @gleick

                    I mean, it was?

                    You could make the argument that ALL legacy news media was and is imperialist, but not the WaPo more specifically and individually.

                    "1973 Pulitzer Prizes:
                    Journalism - Public Service
                    The Washington Post
                    For its investigation of the Watergate case
                    Woodward and Bernstein"

                    Just a moment...

                    favicon

                    (www.pulitzer.org)

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                    • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                      I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                      Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                      @gleick Their remembrance don't matter to them. They have gotten rid of any shame, ethics or scruples. Their wealth is poisoning our world. They destroy so much. #TaxBillionaires - their billions are toxic. Let's detox those ugly rich.

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                      • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                        I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                        Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                        @gleick from the beginning, Bezos seemed to me like a disgusting janitor who secretly watches young girls

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                          @woozle @gleick Yeah. Bezos had specific networks and parental connections that allowed him investors. (I bet your thing would have turned out better for the world.)

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                          • B barrettaltonh@mastodon.social

                            @gleick aye

                            ‘Yes #Bezos,
                            https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2017/02/21/to-billionaire-doomsday-preppers-your-wealth-wont-save-you #Yes - -

                            To Billionaire Doomsday Preppers: Your Wealth Won’t Save You

                            #music #TaxTheRich #FeedThePoor #TillThereAreNoRichNoMore #ArtMusic #TenYearsAfterTenYearsAfter

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                            @barrettaltonh @gleick

                            As I always say, eventually we WILL find the air intakes 😂

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                            • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                              I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                              Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                              @gleick yeah, who knew that was just the Enshittification playbook all along...
                              https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

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                                @woozle @gleick My incarnation of a ‘social network’ predated that ‘other one’ by a couple of years. My social life took all my time. And I could not afford to spend money on the infrastructure needed to make it grow.

                                Or maybe it’s that I did not enjoy the constant requests to ‘find out who posted something’. Moderating is a thankless job. So a big thank you to our moderators!

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                                • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                                  I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                                  Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                                  @gleick is Bill Gates the only one of the tech billionares who seemingly aged quite well?

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                                  • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                                    I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                                    Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                                    @gleick he started his career in a hedge fund. This already primed to see humanity via the distorted lens of financial data and having an "edge". Surveillance capitalism did not happen by accident, it is the programme of frontrunning and exploiting society by monitoring all its activities the way financiers could only do within the confine of financial markets.

                                    Bezos, the Googlers, Zuckerberg etc. are evil in the deepest sense: they conceived and scaled a modern era dehumanization for profit.

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