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I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

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  • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

    I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

    Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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    @gleick
    Sorry, as an European he never was a good guy.

    Amazon was convenient and still is, for buying foreign language books, but convenience does not make it ethical.

    And me personal I was always sceptical of concentration benefits. As these bluntly lead to monopoly and that leads to extortion games to the disadvantage of the consumers, that's a given natural law, like apples fall from trees downwards.

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    • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

      I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

      Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

      sambowne@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @gleick It's amazingly poor judgment to jump on the Trump train when it's already falling apart. Most people are distancing themselves from him now.

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      • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

        @gleick
        Sorry, as an European he never was a good guy.

        Amazon was convenient and still is, for buying foreign language books, but convenience does not make it ethical.

        And me personal I was always sceptical of concentration benefits. As these bluntly lead to monopoly and that leads to extortion games to the disadvantage of the consumers, that's a given natural law, like apples fall from trees downwards.

        lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @yacc143 @gleick indeed. the way germans learned about bezos was that it was his fault all small book stores had to close.

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        • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

          @gleick
          Sorry, as an European he never was a good guy.

          Amazon was convenient and still is, for buying foreign language books, but convenience does not make it ethical.

          And me personal I was always sceptical of concentration benefits. As these bluntly lead to monopoly and that leads to extortion games to the disadvantage of the consumers, that's a given natural law, like apples fall from trees downwards.

          gleick@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
          gleick@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @yacc143 I didn’t say he was. We all know what Amazon did and what it became. What I said was that—unlike you, apparently—I’m old enough to remember when that hadn’t happened yet. And didn’t have to happen.

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          • gleick@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Tedre123 Yes, I remember all that, too. It came later, believe it or not.

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            • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

              I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

              Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

              billseitz@toolsforthought.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @gleick not to mention
              https://www.wired.com/story/amazon-let-its-drivers-urine-be-sold-as-an-energy-drink/
              https://www.newsweek.com/jeff-bezos-venice-wedding-was-relatively-cheap-2092162

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              • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

                colorblindcowboy@mastodon.artC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @gleick I saw him as a guy trying to put bookstores out of business (while not making a profit himself for years). And he’s just gotten more evil from there.

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                • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                  I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                  Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                  barrettaltonh@mastodon.social
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                  @gleick aye

                  ‘Yes #Bezos,
                  https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2017/02/21/to-billionaire-doomsday-preppers-your-wealth-wont-save-you #Yes - -

                  To Billionaire Doomsday Preppers: Your Wealth Won’t Save You

                  #music #TaxTheRich #FeedThePoor #TillThereAreNoRichNoMore #ArtMusic #TenYearsAfterTenYearsAfter

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                  • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                    I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                    Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

                    dbattistella@mstdn.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @gleick Yes! He will also be remembered for that time when he flew to space with William Shatner and when a very emotional Shatner tried to describe the impact the experience had on him, Bezos interrupted by spraying champagne like an idiot. Shatner was trying to express something incredibly emotional, and that jackass couldn't be bothered to pretend to care for even a second.

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                    • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                      I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                      Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

                      lazysupper@famichiki.jpL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @gleick
                      He deserves more credit than that.

                      He also destroyed independent shops, department stores, the publishing industry, and more!

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                      • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                        I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                        Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

                        megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @gleick

                        Hey I've been sucked in by both the Steve Jobs and Elon Musk reality-distortion fields, and I used to be a pagan!

                        Hmm, maybe I should be more forgiving to Jonathan Blow for supporting Trump initially ...

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                        • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                          I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                          Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                          @gleick

                          The Bill Gates reality-distortion field is a persistent one, his PR people are very good at what they do.

                          I keep getting warm fuzzies about him every now and again. He keeps recreating himself, like a rock-star re-styling.

                          Then a memory or new fact drops, and I remember he's a greedy, ruthless, devious, self-serving thug.

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                          • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                            @yacc143 I didn’t say he was. We all know what Amazon did and what it became. What I said was that—unlike you, apparently—I’m old enough to remember when that hadn’t happened yet. And didn’t have to happen.

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                            @yacc143 @gleick I even remember when they had great customer service! I naively thought that might persist.

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                            • lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @yacc143 @gleick indeed. the way germans learned about bezos was that it was his fault all small book stores had to close.

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                              @lritter @gleick Well, it was more or less inevitable.

                              The fact that he did ugly things with accounting, like literally making sure for decades to run at zero profits while making sure to grow as fast as possible, is another thing. Strictly speaking, legal, but only possible because he managed to sell it to the investors.

                              But yes, it killed the competition.

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                              • chardlee@dads.coolC chardlee@dads.cool

                                @yacc143 @gleick I even remember when they had great customer service! I naively thought that might persist.

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                                @chardlee @gleick Only till the competition was dead.

                                As a cynic, capitalism was much nicer to the peons until about the time the USSR collapsed.

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                                • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

                                  @gleick
                                  Sorry, as an European he never was a good guy.

                                  Amazon was convenient and still is, for buying foreign language books, but convenience does not make it ethical.

                                  And me personal I was always sceptical of concentration benefits. As these bluntly lead to monopoly and that leads to extortion games to the disadvantage of the consumers, that's a given natural law, like apples fall from trees downwards.

                                  pascaline@mastodon.nlP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @yacc143 @gleick

                                  That came later though.

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                                  • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                                    I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                                    Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

                                    pascaline@mastodon.nlP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @gleick

                                    Well, James, judging from many comments, no one is old enough to remember the more innocent days.
                                    As my Nice Ex, very geeky, remembers when PayPal seemed such a new, sweet initiative.

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                                    • megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.social

                                      @gleick

                                      The Bill Gates reality-distortion field is a persistent one, his PR people are very good at what they do.

                                      I keep getting warm fuzzies about him every now and again. He keeps recreating himself, like a rock-star re-styling.

                                      Then a memory or new fact drops, and I remember he's a greedy, ruthless, devious, self-serving thug.

                                      geonz@mathstodon.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @megatronicthronbanks @gleick Back in the last century there was a little documentary comparing him to STeve JObs and ... they were both manipulative greedy thiieves but Steve Jobs was a little crazier with wanting to take over the world.
                                      The damage he's done to education is the part I feel directly.

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                                      • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                                        I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                                        Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                                        @gleick I'm so old I remember when Bill Gates... oh, no, he was always a complete and utter c**t, right from the start.

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                                        • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                                          I'm so old I remember when Jeff #Bezos seemed like sort of a good guy who chose books as the focus of his clever new internet store.

                                          Now he will always be remembered as the toady who paid tens of millions in tribute to the Trumps while ruthlessly destroying one of history's great newspapers.

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                                          @gleick Imagine unironically calling an imperialist rag like WaPo one of history's "greatest" newspapers. 💀

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