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  • climatejenny@biodiversity.socialC climatejenny@biodiversity.social

    @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. I have a cute little bell that dings, but people still startle, so I follow up with a big friendly “good morning!” Not because I’m actually friendly, but because I want people to understand it was a neutral heads-up, not the equivalent of a car honking.
    #BikeNite

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    @ClimateJenny @ascentale @bikenite I do that too! 😀❤️

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    • iaintshootinmis@digitaldarkage.ccI iaintshootinmis@digitaldarkage.cc

      @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite why would I alert them? If I warned them, I'd lose the element of surprise and my advantage on attack rolls!

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      @iaintshootinmis @ascentale @bikenite Nobody expects the MUP Cyclists!

      Our chief weapon is surprise. Surprise and fear — fear and surprise.

      Our *two* weapons are fear and surprise, and ruthless efficiency.

      Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to commuting by bike.

      Our *four* — no. *Amongst* our weapons, amongst our weaponry, are such elements as fear, surprise…

      I'll ride up behind you again.

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      • martycormack@urbanists.socialM martycormack@urbanists.social

        @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
        #BikeNite A7:
        I have a bell on two of my bikes. But the majority of the time I use my voice. I frequently ride multiuse trails with plenty of pedestrians and many walking dogs. If they have a dog, I give a warning as soon as they are in hearing range, the sooner the better, and that makes it more likely the dog will be under control by the time I pass.

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        @MartyCormack @ascentale @bikenite Same, regarding dogs. Then as I pass I’ll often thank them, and say something like “I didn’t want to startle your dog” 😀🐕❤️

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        • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

          @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

          From pedestrians and other cyclists, I just say hello

          If they have ear buds or otherwise cannot hear me, I just cruise along slowly behind them until they notice me. I am a patient person

          For motor vehicles, I use a long flagpole with something silly attached to the end. Artificial flowers, a small stuffed animal.... Something that people might notice

          I also will not cross in front of a vehicle until the driver meets my eyes. This is another thing that sometimes involves waiting

          Somebody in the turn lane, and looking down at their phone, I absolutely do not trust them. I've been hit before, multiple times, by drivers who turn after stopping, and without looking. I can yell, bang on their hood, anything. They are clueless

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          @NilaJones @ascentale @bikenite Yeah, I’ve had to bang on cars. I’m sure many others here have too 😔

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          • morgan@sfba.socialM morgan@sfba.social

            @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

            A7: if coming from behind, call out "on your left," (or "right") and have my Timber bell dingling. If approaching them face to face, voice as well and a wave, and I might declare which side, or say something nice.

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            Timber Mountain Bike Bells

            Timber mountain bike bells are the first bicycle bells designed for mountain biking. For mtb trail awareness Timber features cowbell style ringer system with dual modes and an easy on-off switch from ring to silent mode for warning hikers, horses, bears and mountain lions.

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            Timber Mountain Bike Bells (mtbbell.com)

            #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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            @morgan @ascentale @bikenite Oh, that Timber bell looks very cool. I’d never heard of them before! 😀❤️

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            • meganl@mas.toM meganl@mas.to

              @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. Oddly enough, I was just dealing with trying to order an AirZound from the US this week. I wish I had thought to bring mine with me, but I didn't know what would be easy or hard to get in Albania, nor that shipping would be so incredibly expensive, hard, or even impossible.

              I use a combo of bell and AirZound. Bell for alerting pedestrians...more gentle. Airhorn for drivers. #BikeNite

              What you can do with a bulb horn: https://youtu.be/hgCqz3l33kU?si=_aKzhAo2clQVeDZc&t=108

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              @meganL @ascentale @bikenite That’s fantastic 😀🚴‍♀️❤️

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              • matthewnewell@mastodon.socialM matthewnewell@mastodon.social

                @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

                I have actually been told off for using my bell not speaking AND for calling out hello not ringing my bell - on the same short ride.

                I ride a lot on shared paths so now do this

                1. Slow Down
                2. Ding Ding (spurcycle bell - very pure high pitched pings)
                3. "Hello There!" As friendly as I can make it
                4. If indecision showing in action of ped "ok if I come past on your..."
                5. "Thanks! Enjoy your walk"

                My voice is sometimes as tired as my legs

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                @MatthewNewell @ascentale @bikenite Yeah, I’ll often slow down too, depending on the situation. And a friendly “Thanks” has never seemed unwelcome 😀🚴‍♀️❤️

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                • martycormack@urbanists.socialM martycormack@urbanists.social

                  @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
                  #BikeNite A7a:
                  You can tell the regular/daily Multiuse Path walkers by the way they react to a bell ding or an "on your left." They are already on the right side (in North America) and they wave a hand or say "hello," "good morning,' or "thank you" acknowledging they've heard your warning and appreciate it.

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                  @MartyCormack @ascentale @bikenite Yes! That’s always nice to see 😀

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                  • uxmark@mstdn.caU uxmark@mstdn.ca

                    @MartyCormack @ascentale @bikenite Same, regarding dogs. Then as I pass I’ll often thank them, and say something like “I didn’t want to startle your dog” 😀🐕❤️

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                    @uxmark @MartyCormack @ascentale @bikenite same. There are a lot of lockdown dogs (and others) on my cycle route. I absolutely thank the people who can control their dogs.

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                    • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                      @uxmark asks:

                      Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                      Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                      #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                      @ascentale @bikenite A7. I’m loving both variety of responses and the loose consensus on how folks handle this.

                      For me, I try to ding my bell at some distance to avoid a startle response. As others have said, though, when someone is wearing ear phones they may not hear that. I do try to be careful when passing them, but the lack of situational awareness is a *them* problem.

                      As others have said, I’ll also say something like “hello” or “good morning” as I pass. Communicating with other people can make things so much easier and fun. 😀🚴‍♀️❤️

                      And I’m happy to have learned about Timber bells!

                      #BikeNite

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                      • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                        @uxmark asks:

                        Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                        Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                        #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                        @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite I usually have one of those small cow bells hanging from my backpack, which is constantly jingling, so other trail users can hear it from a distance. I agree that yelling "on your left" can startle people. Coming up slower and saying "hello" is better.

                        Some days on the trails we'll come across the local cross country running teams and those kids are also taught to say "hello" to others. So, there is a whole lot of hellos being said on those days.

                        Another thing our mountain bike team practice groups is taught is to yell "hiker up" when we spot a hiker up ahead. The kids are supposed to repeat it back along the group. We're really yelling it to tell the rest of the riding group about the hiker, but the hikers also hear it. We try do it far enough away that they shouldn't be startled by it.

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                        • uxmark@mstdn.caU uxmark@mstdn.ca

                          @morgan @ascentale @bikenite Oh, that Timber bell looks very cool. I’d never heard of them before! 😀❤️

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                          @uxmark @ascentale @bikenite best part, you can turn it on and off. Hikers thanks me for it all the time.

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                          • morgan@sfba.socialM morgan@sfba.social

                            @uxmark @ascentale @bikenite best part, you can turn it on and off. Hikers thanks me for it all the time.

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                            @morgan @ascentale @bikenite Very cool. And I’ve discovered this morning that a local bike shop carries them.

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                            • 47363@norden.social4 47363@norden.social

                              @ascentale
                              @uxmark

                              A7 - when overtaking pedestrians in a shared space I'd sometimes whistle while approaching them from behind.
                              My reasoning was
                              - I only want to alert them to my presence, not shoo them out of my way
                              - the bell is too aggressive
                              - voice wouldn't work; they might not understand me (because they weren't expecting to be spoken too and I didn't want to shout)
                              - me whistling: not aggressive and they can judge my speed from increased volume

                              @bikenite

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                              @ascentale @uxmark

                              A7 P.S.
                              A few points that I should perhaps clarify [it was late last night]
                              • I haven't been in the kind of situation I was thinking of last night for quite some time, we have mostly separate lanes here now
                              •I'd whistle a *tune* , not a cat-calling style whistle (sometimes I'd even sing a few bars of a random song)

                              @bikenite

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                              • 47363@norden.social4 47363@norden.social

                                @ascentale @uxmark

                                A7 P.S.
                                A few points that I should perhaps clarify [it was late last night]
                                • I haven't been in the kind of situation I was thinking of last night for quite some time, we have mostly separate lanes here now
                                •I'd whistle a *tune* , not a cat-calling style whistle (sometimes I'd even sing a few bars of a random song)

                                @bikenite

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                                @47363 @ascentale @bikenite Noted 🤣🎶❤️

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                                  @yorkie @MartyCormack @ascentale @bikenite Years ago I passed a couple of people who were riding horses at the side of the road. They loudly told me how dangerous a spooked horse might be. I now *always* ring my bell when I see horses ahead, no matter how much room I have to pass!

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