@uxmark asks:
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite #BikeNite A7. First of all, with always-on lighting.
Second, I have a bell that came with my ebike, although it's not a very good one, so I'd like to get Crane bells for both my bikes; my fitness bike doesn't have a bell.
I have also very seriously considered mounting a 12 V motorcycle horn to my ebike, because of motor vehicle drivers.
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite I forgot to mention that I ride in the street, so it's extremely rare for me to encounter anyone I would need to alert that isn't in a motor vehicle.
I haven't had access to a multiuse pathway since I moved out of Center City Philadelphia in 1997, when I used to regularly use the river drive paths along the Schuykill River and the trails in Wissahickon Valley Park.
Wait, I forgot my two years living in Seattle, 2012-2014, where I had access to the waterfront path.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7: I have a trail bell which I unlock for constant tolling very very early. Dogs hear that very easy and don‘t get surprised and aggressive. People often have earphones in the ear so I will add a long and strong „Fahrrad“ -German for Bicycle- on a shorter distance. This works out pretty much happy faces as it is very uncommon. As I have path less pedalled for many rides this works out very well. Bells tended to startle walkers.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#bikeNite
#bikeNiteA
A6
As most have said, bell and voice, depending.
I have a third mode for people stepping out unpredictably into the bike lane - squealing disk brakes. It's got a couple of advantages - it's immediate. There's no brain involved trying to remember where the bell is.
The other advantage is that it's LOUD and will cut through the best noise cancelling headphones. -
@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Bells are legally required here, so I use them. I didn’t have one on my race bike for a while, and I see why they are required—they do a good job without being obnoxious.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. Oddly enough, I was just dealing with trying to order an AirZound from the US this week. I wish I had thought to bring mine with me, but I didn't know what would be easy or hard to get in Albania, nor that shipping would be so incredibly expensive, hard, or even impossible.
I use a combo of bell and AirZound. Bell for alerting pedestrians...more gentle. Airhorn for drivers. #BikeNite
What you can do with a bulb horn: https://youtu.be/hgCqz3l33kU?si=_aKzhAo2clQVeDZc&t=108
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
A7: I use different notices by levels
1. a bell if I'm at a prudent distance
2. shouting a phrase if I get dangerously close
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7 #BikeNite A bell or a yell. Followed by a cheery hello, and an even cheerier one if they're looking sour faced about sharing the space.
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7) Bell, book and candle #BikeNite
@lopta @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
We're looking to communicate our presence not excommunicate...
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7: I have a trail bell which I unlock for constant tolling very very early. Dogs hear that very easy and don‘t get surprised and aggressive. People often have earphones in the ear so I will add a long and strong „Fahrrad“ -German for Bicycle- on a shorter distance. This works out pretty much happy faces as it is very uncommon. As I have path less pedalled for many rides this works out very well. Bells tended to startle walkers.
@Jay23Jay @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
More Cowbell!
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
I have actually been told off for using my bell not speaking AND for calling out hello not ringing my bell - on the same short ride.
I ride a lot on shared paths so now do this
1. Slow Down
2. Ding Ding (spurcycle bell - very pure high pitched pings)
3. "Hello There!" As friendly as I can make it
4. If indecision showing in action of ped "ok if I come past on your..."
5. "Thanks! Enjoy your walk"My voice is sometimes as tired as my legs
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite #BikeNite A7. I have a couple of bells, but I find that people get freaked out by it and/or jump 2 feet up into the air in alarm and or jump into traffic... so I am not eager to use them. A headlight seems to scatter pedestrians like roaches, which is kinda rude, but effective. Yelling seems to be inviting fisticuffs. I am considering something that plays an ice cream truck melody.
@ai6yr @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
Have you tried Morris bells?
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#bikeNite
#bikeNiteA
A6
As most have said, bell and voice, depending.
I have a third mode for people stepping out unpredictably into the bike lane - squealing disk brakes. It's got a couple of advantages - it's immediate. There's no brain involved trying to remember where the bell is.
The other advantage is that it's LOUD and will cut through the best noise cancelling headphones.@v_perjorative And also, pretty much everyone knows the sound of brake squeal as a moving vehicle of some sort.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. Like the many said before. Pedestrians often hear me rolling from behind, especially when riding through the woods. Sometimes I use a bell, if I am still at some distance. If we have to share the lane, I say "thank you", if they make room while I pass by.
(At cars I sometimes would like to have a strong foghorn on my bicycle, as used by ships. You will know why.)
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7a:
You can tell the regular/daily Multiuse Path walkers by the way they react to a bell ding or an "on your left." They are already on the right side (in North America) and they wave a hand or say "hello," "good morning,' or "thank you" acknowledging they've heard your warning and appreciate it. -
@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7b:
Once I had to resort to a tap on the shoulder. I was riding a bike trail in Alabama through a swamp, a boardwalk with railings on both sides. A woman was walking 2 dogs, a leash in each hand blocking the entire width with earbuds apparently playing full blast. After shouting as loud as I could for about a minute from a couple feet away, I finally tapped her on the shoulder and scared the daylights out of her. What was she thinking? -
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7b:
Once I had to resort to a tap on the shoulder. I was riding a bike trail in Alabama through a swamp, a boardwalk with railings on both sides. A woman was walking 2 dogs, a leash in each hand blocking the entire width with earbuds apparently playing full blast. After shouting as loud as I could for about a minute from a couple feet away, I finally tapped her on the shoulder and scared the daylights out of her. What was she thinking?@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7c: What I yell depends on the circumstances. "On your left, " "bicycle approaching," "behind you," etc.Sometimes when saying "on your left" and the person inexplicably moves to the left side, I will then say "on your other left."
When I am passed by another faster rider who fails to warn, I'll sarcastically yell "on your right!"
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7c: What I yell depends on the circumstances. "On your left, " "bicycle approaching," "behind you," etc.Sometimes when saying "on your left" and the person inexplicably moves to the left side, I will then say "on your other left."
When I am passed by another faster rider who fails to warn, I'll sarcastically yell "on your right!"
@MartyCormack @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite (1) sometimes all they hear is "left"; (2) if you're already to the left of them when you shout, they will naturally turn towards the source of the sound
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7c: What I yell depends on the circumstances. "On your left, " "bicycle approaching," "behind you," etc.Sometimes when saying "on your left" and the person inexplicably moves to the left side, I will then say "on your other left."
When I am passed by another faster rider who fails to warn, I'll sarcastically yell "on your right!"
@MartyCormack @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite "On your left" usually makes zero sense to pedestrians and a fair few of the people I encounter on bikes.
I haven't found an ideal way to alert people but just just keeping it simple and saying "excuse me" has produced the least confusion and/or anger
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@lopta @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
We're looking to communicate our presence not excommunicate...
@MatthewNewell @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Exorcise while we Exercise?
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@MatthewNewell @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Exorcise while we Exercise?
@lopta @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
Chapeau!
