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@MarkBrigham @cainmark @bikenite @ascentale @uxmark A7 #bikeNite
I don't mind people on multiuse trails with headphones on, as long as they act like they are oblivious to their surroundings and kept to the far left and don't jump out. There are many who do it right, and some who are a menace.It might help that the trails I use the most also have frequent horses, so acting stupid is as likely to get you trampled by a ton of horse as a bike.
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite #BikeNite A7. First of all, with always-on lighting.
Second, I have a bell that came with my ebike, although it's not a very good one, so I'd like to get Crane bells for both my bikes; my fitness bike doesn't have a bell.
I have also very seriously considered mounting a 12 V motorcycle horn to my ebike, because of motor vehicle drivers.
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite I forgot to mention that I ride in the street, so it's extremely rare for me to encounter anyone I would need to alert that isn't in a motor vehicle.
I haven't had access to a multiuse pathway since I moved out of Center City Philadelphia in 1997, when I used to regularly use the river drive paths along the Schuykill River and the trails in Wissahickon Valley Park.
Wait, I forgot my two years living in Seattle, 2012-2014, where I had access to the waterfront path.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7: I have a trail bell which I unlock for constant tolling very very early. Dogs hear that very easy and don‘t get surprised and aggressive. People often have earphones in the ear so I will add a long and strong „Fahrrad“ -German for Bicycle- on a shorter distance. This works out pretty much happy faces as it is very uncommon. As I have path less pedalled for many rides this works out very well. Bells tended to startle walkers.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#bikeNite
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A6
As most have said, bell and voice, depending.
I have a third mode for people stepping out unpredictably into the bike lane - squealing disk brakes. It's got a couple of advantages - it's immediate. There's no brain involved trying to remember where the bell is.
The other advantage is that it's LOUD and will cut through the best noise cancelling headphones. -
@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Bells are legally required here, so I use them. I didn’t have one on my race bike for a while, and I see why they are required—they do a good job without being obnoxious.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. Oddly enough, I was just dealing with trying to order an AirZound from the US this week. I wish I had thought to bring mine with me, but I didn't know what would be easy or hard to get in Albania, nor that shipping would be so incredibly expensive, hard, or even impossible.
I use a combo of bell and AirZound. Bell for alerting pedestrians...more gentle. Airhorn for drivers. #BikeNite
What you can do with a bulb horn: https://youtu.be/hgCqz3l33kU?si=_aKzhAo2clQVeDZc&t=108
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
A7: I use different notices by levels
1. a bell if I'm at a prudent distance
2. shouting a phrase if I get dangerously close
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7 #BikeNite A bell or a yell. Followed by a cheery hello, and an even cheerier one if they're looking sour faced about sharing the space.
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7) Bell, book and candle #BikeNite
@lopta @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
We're looking to communicate our presence not excommunicate...
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7: I have a trail bell which I unlock for constant tolling very very early. Dogs hear that very easy and don‘t get surprised and aggressive. People often have earphones in the ear so I will add a long and strong „Fahrrad“ -German for Bicycle- on a shorter distance. This works out pretty much happy faces as it is very uncommon. As I have path less pedalled for many rides this works out very well. Bells tended to startle walkers.
@Jay23Jay @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
More Cowbell!
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
I have actually been told off for using my bell not speaking AND for calling out hello not ringing my bell - on the same short ride.
I ride a lot on shared paths so now do this
1. Slow Down
2. Ding Ding (spurcycle bell - very pure high pitched pings)
3. "Hello There!" As friendly as I can make it
4. If indecision showing in action of ped "ok if I come past on your..."
5. "Thanks! Enjoy your walk"My voice is sometimes as tired as my legs
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite #BikeNite A7. I have a couple of bells, but I find that people get freaked out by it and/or jump 2 feet up into the air in alarm and or jump into traffic... so I am not eager to use them. A headlight seems to scatter pedestrians like roaches, which is kinda rude, but effective. Yelling seems to be inviting fisticuffs. I am considering something that plays an ice cream truck melody.
@ai6yr @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
Have you tried Morris bells?
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
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A6
As most have said, bell and voice, depending.
I have a third mode for people stepping out unpredictably into the bike lane - squealing disk brakes. It's got a couple of advantages - it's immediate. There's no brain involved trying to remember where the bell is.
The other advantage is that it's LOUD and will cut through the best noise cancelling headphones.@v_perjorative And also, pretty much everyone knows the sound of brake squeal as a moving vehicle of some sort.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. Like the many said before. Pedestrians often hear me rolling from behind, especially when riding through the woods. Sometimes I use a bell, if I am still at some distance. If we have to share the lane, I say "thank you", if they make room while I pass by.
(At cars I sometimes would like to have a strong foghorn on my bicycle, as used by ships. You will know why.)
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7a:
You can tell the regular/daily Multiuse Path walkers by the way they react to a bell ding or an "on your left." They are already on the right side (in North America) and they wave a hand or say "hello," "good morning,' or "thank you" acknowledging they've heard your warning and appreciate it. -
@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7b:
Once I had to resort to a tap on the shoulder. I was riding a bike trail in Alabama through a swamp, a boardwalk with railings on both sides. A woman was walking 2 dogs, a leash in each hand blocking the entire width with earbuds apparently playing full blast. After shouting as loud as I could for about a minute from a couple feet away, I finally tapped her on the shoulder and scared the daylights out of her. What was she thinking? -
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7b:
Once I had to resort to a tap on the shoulder. I was riding a bike trail in Alabama through a swamp, a boardwalk with railings on both sides. A woman was walking 2 dogs, a leash in each hand blocking the entire width with earbuds apparently playing full blast. After shouting as loud as I could for about a minute from a couple feet away, I finally tapped her on the shoulder and scared the daylights out of her. What was she thinking?@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7c: What I yell depends on the circumstances. "On your left, " "bicycle approaching," "behind you," etc.Sometimes when saying "on your left" and the person inexplicably moves to the left side, I will then say "on your other left."
When I am passed by another faster rider who fails to warn, I'll sarcastically yell "on your right!"
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7c: What I yell depends on the circumstances. "On your left, " "bicycle approaching," "behind you," etc.Sometimes when saying "on your left" and the person inexplicably moves to the left side, I will then say "on your other left."
When I am passed by another faster rider who fails to warn, I'll sarcastically yell "on your right!"
@MartyCormack @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite (1) sometimes all they hear is "left"; (2) if you're already to the left of them when you shout, they will naturally turn towards the source of the sound
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7c: What I yell depends on the circumstances. "On your left, " "bicycle approaching," "behind you," etc.Sometimes when saying "on your left" and the person inexplicably moves to the left side, I will then say "on your other left."
When I am passed by another faster rider who fails to warn, I'll sarcastically yell "on your right!"
@MartyCormack @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite "On your left" usually makes zero sense to pedestrians and a fair few of the people I encounter on bikes.
I haven't found an ideal way to alert people but just just keeping it simple and saying "excuse me" has produced the least confusion and/or anger
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@lopta @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
We're looking to communicate our presence not excommunicate...
@MatthewNewell @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Exorcise while we Exercise?
