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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • delve@deadinsi.deD delve@deadinsi.de

    @ocean Least surprising revelation of the year to be honest.

    I think the exact same thing is true of YouTube, which is so dominant that they can make it shittier every day and people will still use it.

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    shadsterling@mastodon.social
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    @delve @ocean At least with YouTube you can pay to get it ad-free. Google doesn’t have a way to pay to get actually good search results

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    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
      Turns out that was on purpose

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      @ocean Glad I've already ditched Google in favour of Qwant

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      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
        Turns out that was on purpose

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        enshittification explained again

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        • xepia_@social.bau-ha.usX xepia_@social.bau-ha.us

          @morgunkorn
          Yup.
          https://archive.is/HoB1U

          @realhackhistory @ocean @hjoest @christianschwaegerl

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          @xepia_ @morgunkorn @realhackhistory @ocean @hjoest thanks

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          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
            Turns out that was on purpose

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            aryamiller@mastodon.social
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            @ocean how to #degoogle? Could you recommend another browser to me? Ths.👍

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            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
              Turns out that was on purpose

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              @ocean "interact with more ads"? I don't think I've never interacted with any ads except right-click to block them.

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              • raktheundead@vmst.ioR raktheundead@vmst.io

                @ocean: Ed Zitron wrote comprehensively on the people responsible.

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                The Man Who Killed Google Search

                Wanna listen to this story instead? Check out this week's Better Offline podcast, "The Man That Destroyed Google Search," available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and anywhere else you get your podcasts. UPDATE: Prabhakar has now been deposed as head of search, read here for more details. This is the story

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                Ed Zitron's Where's Your Ed At (www.wheresyoured.at)

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                @raktheundead @ocean It appears their "code yellow" has left them in the code brown.

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                • mistermaker@fosstodon.orgM mistermaker@fosstodon.org

                  @gsuberland @osman @seq @morgunkorn Pretty obvious that they kept the metric that keeps users on their website.
                  Also logical they are doing this. Now they are tuning it so it's just shit, but not shit enough that users will leave.

                  Important stuff like web search shouldn't be free.
                  I'm really eyeballing to get @kagihq it's a bit expensive atm.

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                  @MisterMaker @gsuberland @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I subscribed for a few months. It seemed like a good idea, and occasionally did produce better results. However, it was also very US centric in its results and the quality was patchy, for my use.

                  I’m unconvinced “paying” is a panacea. Many of the best things in this world are not due to payment. People care about things for many reasons. Payment is frequently the mechanism to compensate people do things they don’t otherwise care to do. And stay alive, of course.

                  Competition, and ideally not using single search providers as a model, would help.

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                  • benjohn@todon.nlB benjohn@todon.nl

                    @MisterMaker @gsuberland @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I subscribed for a few months. It seemed like a good idea, and occasionally did produce better results. However, it was also very US centric in its results and the quality was patchy, for my use.

                    I’m unconvinced “paying” is a panacea. Many of the best things in this world are not due to payment. People care about things for many reasons. Payment is frequently the mechanism to compensate people do things they don’t otherwise care to do. And stay alive, of course.

                    Competition, and ideally not using single search providers as a model, would help.

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                    @benjohn @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I tried it. the results were no better than DDG and then they started doing AI stuff so I stopped using it.

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                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                      Turns out that was on purpose

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                      @ocean 🤯

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                      • aryamiller@mastodon.socialA aryamiller@mastodon.social

                        @ocean how to #degoogle? Could you recommend another browser to me? Ths.👍

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                        @AryaMiller @ocean librewolf on desktop, fennec on mobile

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                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                          Turns out that was on purpose

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                          @ocean@raru.re
                          I'm shocked.
                          Shicked!
                          ... Well, not that shocked...
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                          • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                            You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                            Turns out that was on purpose

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                            @ocean this … explains so much

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                            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                              Turns out that was on purpose

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                              @ocean Source?

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                              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                Turns out that was on purpose

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                                @ocean ladies and gentlemen, and those betwixt and/or in literally any dimensional relation to those, or no relation at all, THE PROFIT MOTIVE! It will fucking kill us all.

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                                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                  Turns out that was on purpose

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                                  @ocean The ultimate endgame, the most effective way to play the advertising game is to trap all users in an inescapable maze of ads forever so they see as many ads as possible.

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                                  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                    @benjohn @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I tried it. the results were no better than DDG and then they started doing AI stuff so I stopped using it.

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                                    @gsuberland @benjohn @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq Oh no that sounds bad.... I am not against AI stuff, you just have to see it as a fancy spelling and grammar check.

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                                    • mistermaker@fosstodon.orgM mistermaker@fosstodon.org

                                      @gsuberland @benjohn @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq Oh no that sounds bad.... I am not against AI stuff, you just have to see it as a fancy spelling and grammar check.

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                                      @MisterMaker @benjohn @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq yeah, well, I am against it.

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                                      • publictorsten@mastodon.socialP publictorsten@mastodon.social

                                        @ocean Source?

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                                        @ocean Your assumptions are based on incomplete data. I had a look into the documents in question and Google is worried to lose traffic if the search quality decreases.

                                        https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/Google%20Search%20Engine%20Monopoly%20Ruling.pdf

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                                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                          Turns out that was on purpose

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                                          @ocean could you please link the source?
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