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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • mikal@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    mikal@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    mikal@sfba.social
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    #19

    @ocean
    Ha! Knew it!
    Not long ago I pointed out to someone that in a way, worse search results meant more time scrolling and ergo more ad impressions, so it wouldn't at all surprise me if they quit bothering to improve.

    Fuckers. I'd assumed a sort of passive acceptance and laziness had led to degraded quality, but the fact that it was actually designed that way means there should be a "recall" of their product and they need to compensate me for all the wasted time before I finally gave up and went to DDG (which, IMO, has dropped significantly in quality since I started using it 🤔 ).

    Thing is, look at ANY online business that makes money off of ad impressions and there is an immediately obvious incentive to find ways to increase your scrolling time on the site. Not all are scummy grifters, of course, but when the incentive is there, someone is going to take advantage of it.

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    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
      Turns out that was on purpose

      cowman@nfld.meC This user is from outside of this forum
      cowman@nfld.meC This user is from outside of this forum
      cowman@nfld.me
      wrote on last edited by
      #20

      @ocean this is the core problem with metrics that target 'engagement', and things like A/B testing that enable it.

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      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
        Turns out that was on purpose

        alkaris@meow.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
        alkaris@meow.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
        alkaris@meow.social
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        #21

        @ocean I knew Google Search was so bad long before this document proves it, because I could no longer search for certain things on the Internet anymore, you'd have to use special tags just to find things, its also the reason I stopped using Google for searches because it's just so unusable

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        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
          Turns out that was on purpose

          tvaughan@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
          tvaughan@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
          tvaughan@mastodon.social
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          #22

          @ocean Capitalism does not allocate resources efficiently.

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          • xepia_@social.bau-ha.usX This user is from outside of this forum
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            #23

            @morgunkorn
            Yup.
            https://archive.is/HoB1U

            @realhackhistory @ocean @hjoest @christianschwaegerl

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            • paradox@raru.reP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #24

              @lispi314
              Llm is always the first thing tried. You can ignore it.

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              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                Turns out that was on purpose

                darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                darwinwoodka@mastodon.social
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                #25

                @ocean

                duckduckgo ftw

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                • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  darwinwoodka@mastodon.social
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                  #26

                  @svenjacobs @ocean

                  duckduckgo

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                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                    Turns out that was on purpose

                    galamadryade@piaille.frG This user is from outside of this forum
                    galamadryade@piaille.frG This user is from outside of this forum
                    galamadryade@piaille.fr
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                    #27

                    @ocean That's why I now use duckduckgo. SO MUCH BETTER.

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                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                      Turns out that was on purpose

                      delve@deadinsi.deD This user is from outside of this forum
                      delve@deadinsi.deD This user is from outside of this forum
                      delve@deadinsi.de
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                      #28

                      @ocean Least surprising revelation of the year to be honest.

                      I think the exact same thing is true of YouTube, which is so dominant that they can make it shittier every day and people will still use it.

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                      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                        Turns out that was on purpose

                        alpha1beta@libretweet.comA This user is from outside of this forum
                        alpha1beta@libretweet.comA This user is from outside of this forum
                        alpha1beta@libretweet.com
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                        #29

                        @ocean is there a source on this?

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                        • paradox@raru.reP paradox@raru.re

                          @ocean I need to understand what people are searching for and why the first page doesn't help them.
                          Cuz the only time I can't find something is because I don't really expect to find anything. Either cuz it's a very niche question or earlier when I tried to get a pdf/ebook of Harold and the Purple Crayon (still copyrighted I think, no straightforward download).

                          Like I believe people are having a hard time. I just can't tell from my experience.

                          heptasean@social.tchncs.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          heptasean@social.tchncs.de
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #30

                          @Paradox By the way: Never heard of “Harold and the Purple Crayon” before, but https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Harold+and+the+Purple+Crayon%22+PDF results in a PDF with a Hindi translation (including the English original, but black and white without purple) and a PDF with a version with additional graphic explanations for people with disabilities on the first search result page. … which probably is as good as it gets for a work still under copyright.

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                          • heptasean@social.tchncs.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            heptasean@social.tchncs.de
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                            #31

                            @lispi314 You are not only talking about the snippet from *Google's* LLM at the top of the search results, but also about the other results? Haven't had *that* many obviously LLM-generated, but perhaps my interests are just niche enough. @Paradox

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                            • heptasean@social.tchncs.deH heptasean@social.tchncs.de

                              @Paradox By the way: Never heard of “Harold and the Purple Crayon” before, but https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Harold+and+the+Purple+Crayon%22+PDF results in a PDF with a Hindi translation (including the English original, but black and white without purple) and a PDF with a version with additional graphic explanations for people with disabilities on the first search result page. … which probably is as good as it gets for a work still under copyright.

                              paradox@raru.reP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              paradox@raru.re
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #32

                              @HeptaSean
                              It's an old kid's book about a boy that explores the world while drawing it all with his crayon.

                              Thanks. ^_^

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                              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                Turns out that was on purpose

                                dorothywillson@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dorothywillson@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dorothywillson@mastodon.social
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #33

                                @ocean right

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                                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                  Turns out that was on purpose

                                  cassolotl@toot.walesC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  cassolotl@toot.wales
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                                  #34

                                  @ocean Source: https://journalrecord.com/2025/02/20/is-google-making-search-worse-to-sell-more-ads/

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                                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                    Turns out that was on purpose

                                    mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    mdione@en.osm.town
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                                    #35

                                    @ocean where is this coming from? What's the source?

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                                    • mikal@sfba.socialM mikal@sfba.social

                                      @ocean
                                      Ha! Knew it!
                                      Not long ago I pointed out to someone that in a way, worse search results meant more time scrolling and ergo more ad impressions, so it wouldn't at all surprise me if they quit bothering to improve.

                                      Fuckers. I'd assumed a sort of passive acceptance and laziness had led to degraded quality, but the fact that it was actually designed that way means there should be a "recall" of their product and they need to compensate me for all the wasted time before I finally gave up and went to DDG (which, IMO, has dropped significantly in quality since I started using it 🤔 ).

                                      Thing is, look at ANY online business that makes money off of ad impressions and there is an immediately obvious incentive to find ways to increase your scrolling time on the site. Not all are scummy grifters, of course, but when the incentive is there, someone is going to take advantage of it.

                                      anne_delong@musician.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      anne_delong@musician.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      anne_delong@musician.social
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                                      #36

                                      @Mikal @ocean

                                      Well, as with other companies, competition and product reviews are needed to link good service to profits. So maybe consumers should change up their search engines.

                                      Here's an article from PC Magazine that compares them:

                                      https://www.pcmag.com/picks/go-beyond-google-best-alternative-search-engines

                                      #searchengines

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                                      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                        Turns out that was on purpose

                                        cosmocatalano@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        cosmocatalano@mastodon.social
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                                        #37

                                        @ocean this big issue here is that everyone else's search is still worse

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                                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                          Turns out that was on purpose

                                          jesterchen@social.tchncs.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          jesterchen@social.tchncs.de
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                                          #38

                                          @ocean Nein!

                                          Doch.

                                          Oh...

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