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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

    @osman @seq @morgunkorn hmm. the first email floats the idea of reducing search quality to get more queries, with a caveat of being uncomfortable about it. the rest looks like the results of projects and efforts that were ongoing at the time. am I missing a detail in that email chain that demonstrates that they actually followed through? don't get me wrong, it's gross that they even floated the idea, but if this is intended to be evidentiary proof of committal then I'm not seeing a smoking gun.

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    @gsuberland @osman @seq @morgunkorn Pretty obvious that they kept the metric that keeps users on their website.
    Also logical they are doing this. Now they are tuning it so it's just shit, but not shit enough that users will leave.

    Important stuff like web search shouldn't be free.
    I'm really eyeballing to get @kagihq it's a bit expensive atm.

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    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
      Turns out that was on purpose

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      #126

      @ocean I was literally just wondering about this. Gemini works amazing compared to search, and so they could get users to embrace AI simply by making search worse

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      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
        Turns out that was on purpose

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        #127

        @ocean I've noticed that whenever I use google, I instinctively ignore the first 5 results because I know they will not be what I want.

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        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
          Turns out that was on purpose

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          lazysupper@famichiki.jp
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          #128

          @ocean
          #degoogle

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          • delve@deadinsi.deD delve@deadinsi.de

            @ocean Least surprising revelation of the year to be honest.

            I think the exact same thing is true of YouTube, which is so dominant that they can make it shittier every day and people will still use it.

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            shadsterling@mastodon.social
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            #129

            @delve @ocean At least with YouTube you can pay to get it ad-free. Google doesn’t have a way to pay to get actually good search results

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            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
              Turns out that was on purpose

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              lisa0480@mastodon.social
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              #130

              @ocean Glad I've already ditched Google in favour of Qwant

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              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                Turns out that was on purpose

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                #131

                enshittification explained again

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                • xepia_@social.bau-ha.usX xepia_@social.bau-ha.us

                  @morgunkorn
                  Yup.
                  https://archive.is/HoB1U

                  @realhackhistory @ocean @hjoest @christianschwaegerl

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                  @xepia_ @morgunkorn @realhackhistory @ocean @hjoest thanks

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                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                    Turns out that was on purpose

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                    aryamiller@mastodon.social
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                    #133

                    @ocean how to #degoogle? Could you recommend another browser to me? Ths.👍

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                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                      Turns out that was on purpose

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                      irina@wandering.shop
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                      #134

                      @ocean "interact with more ads"? I don't think I've never interacted with any ads except right-click to block them.

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                      • raktheundead@vmst.ioR raktheundead@vmst.io

                        @ocean: Ed Zitron wrote comprehensively on the people responsible.

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                        The Man Who Killed Google Search

                        Wanna listen to this story instead? Check out this week's Better Offline podcast, "The Man That Destroyed Google Search," available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and anywhere else you get your podcasts. UPDATE: Prabhakar has now been deposed as head of search, read here for more details. This is the story

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                        @raktheundead @ocean It appears their "code yellow" has left them in the code brown.

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                        • mistermaker@fosstodon.orgM mistermaker@fosstodon.org

                          @gsuberland @osman @seq @morgunkorn Pretty obvious that they kept the metric that keeps users on their website.
                          Also logical they are doing this. Now they are tuning it so it's just shit, but not shit enough that users will leave.

                          Important stuff like web search shouldn't be free.
                          I'm really eyeballing to get @kagihq it's a bit expensive atm.

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                          @MisterMaker @gsuberland @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I subscribed for a few months. It seemed like a good idea, and occasionally did produce better results. However, it was also very US centric in its results and the quality was patchy, for my use.

                          I’m unconvinced “paying” is a panacea. Many of the best things in this world are not due to payment. People care about things for many reasons. Payment is frequently the mechanism to compensate people do things they don’t otherwise care to do. And stay alive, of course.

                          Competition, and ideally not using single search providers as a model, would help.

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                          • benjohn@todon.nlB benjohn@todon.nl

                            @MisterMaker @gsuberland @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I subscribed for a few months. It seemed like a good idea, and occasionally did produce better results. However, it was also very US centric in its results and the quality was patchy, for my use.

                            I’m unconvinced “paying” is a panacea. Many of the best things in this world are not due to payment. People care about things for many reasons. Payment is frequently the mechanism to compensate people do things they don’t otherwise care to do. And stay alive, of course.

                            Competition, and ideally not using single search providers as a model, would help.

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                            @benjohn @MisterMaker @osman @seq @morgunkorn @kagihq I tried it. the results were no better than DDG and then they started doing AI stuff so I stopped using it.

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                            • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                              You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                              Turns out that was on purpose

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                              lacraia@mastodon.social
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                              @ocean 🤯

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                              • aryamiller@mastodon.socialA aryamiller@mastodon.social

                                @ocean how to #degoogle? Could you recommend another browser to me? Ths.👍

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                                #139

                                @AryaMiller @ocean librewolf on desktop, fennec on mobile

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                                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                  Turns out that was on purpose

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                                  @ocean@raru.re
                                  I'm shocked.
                                  Shicked!
                                  ... Well, not that shocked...
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                                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                    Turns out that was on purpose

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                                    @ocean this … explains so much

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                                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                      Turns out that was on purpose

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                                      #142

                                      @ocean Source?

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                                      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                        Turns out that was on purpose

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                                        @ocean ladies and gentlemen, and those betwixt and/or in literally any dimensional relation to those, or no relation at all, THE PROFIT MOTIVE! It will fucking kill us all.

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                                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                          Turns out that was on purpose

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                                          staticr@guild.pmdcollab.org
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                                          @ocean The ultimate endgame, the most effective way to play the advertising game is to trap all users in an inescapable maze of ads forever so they see as many ads as possible.

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