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It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years?

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  • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

    I know just little enough about the production of ICs to think that building a DIY microprocessor would be akin to when that kid David Hahn tried building a nuclear reactor in his garage in the 90s. But then again, maybe that's what *they* want me to think

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    lmorchard@masto.hackers.town
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    #10

    Yeah, so anyway, I never throw a computer away, so I'll just be over here muttering "my precious" as the world goes to heck

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    • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

      Yeah, so anyway, I never throw a computer away, so I'll just be over here muttering "my precious" as the world goes to heck

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      #11

      @lmorchard you’ll need a vacuum chamber and a homemade photolithography rig, for starters, but maybe one day there’s a sicko near everybody

      democratize sicko silicon

      https://youtu.be/IS5ycm7VfXg

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      • maddiefuzz@masto.hackers.townM maddiefuzz@masto.hackers.town

        @lmorchard you’ll need a vacuum chamber and a homemade photolithography rig, for starters, but maybe one day there’s a sicko near everybody

        democratize sicko silicon

        https://youtu.be/IS5ycm7VfXg

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        #12

        @maddiefuzz @lmorchard FWIW they're already working on trying to make 3D printers illegal (because you could maybe print parts of guns with them).

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        • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

          It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

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          @lmorchard i'm not convinced they can. not for lack of trying, but because they, uh, have built it all on a foundation of having practical access to hardware. the sudden unavailability of personal computing hardware doesn't leave us having to use non-personal computing, it leaves us all up shit creek without a paddle as nearly everything electronic is no longer obtainable
          the shitstorm is going to get mighty fun as point-of-sale terminals start being hard to get

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          • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

            It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

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            Hold on to Your Hardware

            A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

            favicon

            マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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            #14

            @lmorchard @davew It’s not alarmist, it’s something they’ve mentioned in leaked emails, etc… and it’s what is actually happening directly due to their actions regardless of what they say.

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            • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

              It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

              Link Preview Image
              Hold on to Your Hardware

              A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

              favicon

              マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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              @lmorchard Already accomplished. Cloud computing and web based applications are the mainframe all over again. The priesthood never died, just worked and waited to reemerge.

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              • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

                Link Preview Image
                Hold on to Your Hardware

                A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

                favicon

                マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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                @lmorchard you know, the last machine I had that I really liked was a beautiful DEC tank of a Pentium. Just imagine how much better computers could be if software and OSs for the workaday stiff had to run on constrained resources that can now be cheaply produced.

                —
                Sent from my iPad

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                • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                  It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

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                  Hold on to Your Hardware

                  A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

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                  マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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                  #17

                  @lmorchard

                  Oh, they’re absolutely are. Just look at all the laws that are being passed now and some states. I think it’s Colorado. I just read who wants to put identification personal identification into the OS.

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                  • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                    It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

                    Link Preview Image
                    Hold on to Your Hardware

                    A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

                    favicon

                    マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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                    #18

                    @lmorchard they are trying unfortunately

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                    • robdaemon@hachyderm.ioR robdaemon@hachyderm.io

                      @trevorflowers @lmorchard https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                      @robdaemon @trevorflowers @lmorchard The worrisome part of this is that the AI bubble burst could accelerate this: superscalars sitting on new data centers and hardware with no use for it. Sell it or... convince the public that this is now their new computer [as though that were the plan all along] and they should buy this new cloud terminal device and pay them so they can recoup some of their huge mistakes.

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                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                        @maddiefuzz @lmorchard FWIW they're already working on trying to make 3D printers illegal (because you could maybe print parts of guns with them).

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                        #20

                        @thomasfuchs @lmorchard I’m not sure they’re gonna win that one, for the pessimistic reason that it’s quickly becoming An Industry that will surely lobby.

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                        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                          @maddiefuzz @lmorchard FWIW they're already working on trying to make 3D printers illegal (because you could maybe print parts of guns with them).

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                          Better make bread illegal too, because someone could die choking on it.

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                          • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                            It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

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                            Hold on to Your Hardware

                            A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

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                            @lmorchard can you not pick up right wing conspiracy slogans and just run with them *SMH*

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                            • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                              It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

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                              Hold on to Your Hardware

                              A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

                              favicon

                              マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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                              @lmorchard The average person WANTS all forms of computing to be an abstract subscription that they never have to think about.

                              The future of computing hangs on socioeconomic ideology, not technology.

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                              • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                                It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

                                Link Preview Image
                                Hold on to Your Hardware

                                A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

                                favicon

                                マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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                                #24

                                @lmorchard They've been complaining about it since the 80's. Which explains a few things about how it was taught in the 90's.

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                                • tankgrrl@hachyderm.ioT tankgrrl@hachyderm.io

                                  @robdaemon @trevorflowers @lmorchard The worrisome part of this is that the AI bubble burst could accelerate this: superscalars sitting on new data centers and hardware with no use for it. Sell it or... convince the public that this is now their new computer [as though that were the plan all along] and they should buy this new cloud terminal device and pay them so they can recoup some of their huge mistakes.

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                                  @tankgrrl @robdaemon @trevorflowers @lmorchard what?? Push risk onto the public?? That’s unpossible!

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                                  • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                                    I know just little enough about the production of ICs to think that building a DIY microprocessor would be akin to when that kid David Hahn tried building a nuclear reactor in his garage in the 90s. But then again, maybe that's what *they* want me to think

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                                    @lmorchard I wrote a book about that sort of thing some years ago. It's rather outdated at this point but it might give you some ideas.

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                                    • maddiefuzz@masto.hackers.townM maddiefuzz@masto.hackers.town

                                      @thomasfuchs @lmorchard I’m not sure they’re gonna win that one, for the pessimistic reason that it’s quickly becoming An Industry that will surely lobby.

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                                      #27

                                      @maddiefuzz @thomasfuchs @lmorchard To keep printers out of non-company hands.

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                                      • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                                        I know just little enough about the production of ICs to think that building a DIY microprocessor would be akin to when that kid David Hahn tried building a nuclear reactor in his garage in the 90s. But then again, maybe that's what *they* want me to think

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                                        @lmorchard only one way to find out!!!

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                                        • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                                          I know just little enough about the production of ICs to think that building a DIY microprocessor would be akin to when that kid David Hahn tried building a nuclear reactor in his garage in the 90s. But then again, maybe that's what *they* want me to think

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                                          @lmorchard there is a, probably now adult, person out there doing exactly this, with the same attitude as the nuclear reactor kid.

                                          last time I checked in, he was working in the 300 nanometer scale. zaloof, or something like that. He's on YouTube.

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