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All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

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  • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
    monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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    All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

    “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

    Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

    sashin@veganism.socialS metaning@mastodon.socialM johan@social.terbeest.orgJ T mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM 9 Replies Last reply
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    • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

      All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

      “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

      Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

      sashin@veganism.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      sashin@veganism.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      sashin@veganism.social
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      @monkeyborg Where have these flaws been documented? I want to read about them!

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      • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

        All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

        “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

        Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

        metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        metaning@mastodon.social
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        #3

        @monkeyborg "I was skeptical of the quality of the products of child slave labour, but let me tell you, these new Nikes..."

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        • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Theosoreass Oh yes, totally

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          • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @anne_twain @sashin Are you trying to be ironic by linking an AI-generated article?

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            • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

              All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

              “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

              Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

              johan@social.terbeest.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
              johan@social.terbeest.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @monkeyborg that’s true in the sense that statistic probability tells you Madame Fortuna is sometimes right. The problem is when you start making life choices based on those predictions

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              • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

                “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

                Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

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                theolodian@mastodon.social
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                #7

                @monkeyborg this is a pretty good summary of my concerns. LLMs are patronising and sycophantic. With a bit of interaction I can get sophisticated results that I really like. But there’s this nagging feeling that it’s just figuring out what I want to hear…

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                • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                  All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

                  “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

                  Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

                  mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
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                  #8

                  @monkeyborg

                  I was a mediocre coder until I started using Claude, and my productivity went through the roof.

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                  • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                    All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

                    “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

                    Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

                    samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                    samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @monkeyborg only to people incapable of any serious discrimination, like Joseph Weizenbaum's secretary who asked him to leave the room so she could converse in private with Eliza, the first chatbot, which she had seen him working on.

                    Claude routinely tells me things I don't already know and which are immediately verifiable and it routinely tells me things are wrong, out of date, inaccurate.

                    Only a credulous fool would trust a probabilistic algorithm as an oracle. Who knew?

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                    • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @anne_twain @sashin I apologize, I intended no disrespect.

                      I don't believe that's a human-written article. My day job involves editing articles for a university magazine. The writing style here immediately felt off to me, much like an AI-generated image feels off. There is too much imitation of writing formalisms, too little specific information.

                      I could be wrong. But I can't find a Linda Tran at Berkeley. Even if there were, why would a physicist be writing an article on human psychology?

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                      • samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS samueljohnson@mstdn.social

                        @monkeyborg only to people incapable of any serious discrimination, like Joseph Weizenbaum's secretary who asked him to leave the room so she could converse in private with Eliza, the first chatbot, which she had seen him working on.

                        Claude routinely tells me things I don't already know and which are immediately verifiable and it routinely tells me things are wrong, out of date, inaccurate.

                        Only a credulous fool would trust a probabilistic algorithm as an oracle. Who knew?

                        monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @samueljohnson While I agree with the kernel of what you're saying, I don't see any need to insult people who may have gotten taken in — or to imagine that people who possess better-than-average critical thinking skills are immune.

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                        • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                          @samueljohnson While I agree with the kernel of what you're saying, I don't see any need to insult people who may have gotten taken in — or to imagine that people who possess better-than-average critical thinking skills are immune.

                          samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @monkeyborg I am merely very weary of the endless sweeping generalizations about AI we're increasingly subjected to. No insult intended, presumably any more than in your unfortunate invocation of spirit medium based fraud.

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                          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                            @monkeyborg

                            I was a mediocre coder until I started using Claude, and my productivity went through the roof.

                            ehproque@neopaquita.esE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @mastodonmigration @monkeyborg so, why should I not fire you and hire a 16 year old
                            kid to use Claude instead?

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                            • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                              All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

                              “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

                              Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

                              jabsonik@ihan.outo.laJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jabsonik@ihan.outo.laJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jabsonik@ihan.outo.la
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                              #14

                              @monkeyborg "I was sceptical of drugs, but then I tried heroin.”

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                              • schratze@todon.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @anne_twain @monkeyborg @sashin but that is definitely 100% an AI-generated webpage. There's not much to debate here.

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                                • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                                  All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

                                  “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

                                  Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

                                  ranja@mastodon.artR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @monkeyborg
                                  Except that I'd still trust a psychic a million times more than an llm.

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                                  • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                                    All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

                                    “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

                                    Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

                                    apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    apostateenglishman@mastodon.world
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                                    @monkeyborg

                                    Just in case you or anyone reading this missed @baldur 's excellent 2023 article on this very topic, here it is. 👇🏼

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                                    The LLMentalist Effect: how chat-based Large Language Models rep…

                                    How to make better software with systems-thinking

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                                    Out of the Software Crisis (softwarecrisis.dev)

                                    It's well worth a read!

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                                    • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                                      @anne_twain @sashin I apologize, I intended no disrespect.

                                      I don't believe that's a human-written article. My day job involves editing articles for a university magazine. The writing style here immediately felt off to me, much like an AI-generated image feels off. There is too much imitation of writing formalisms, too little specific information.

                                      I could be wrong. But I can't find a Linda Tran at Berkeley. Even if there were, why would a physicist be writing an article on human psychology?

                                      mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @monkeyborg @anne_twain @sashin Agreed, additionally it would be unusual to use the "Prof." title as opposed to "Dr.". The bio reads like a field from a database of prompts.

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                                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                        @monkeyborg

                                        I was a mediocre coder until I started using Claude, and my productivity went through the roof.

                                        thelancashireman@hostux.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                                        thelancashireman@hostux.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                                        thelancashireman@hostux.social
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                                        @mastodonmigration @monkeyborg

                                        How did you measure that productivity?

                                        (I assume your post is sarcastic)

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