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All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

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  • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

    All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

    “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

    Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

    johan@social.terbeest.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @monkeyborg that’s true in the sense that statistic probability tells you Madame Fortuna is sometimes right. The problem is when you start making life choices based on those predictions

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    • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

      All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

      “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

      Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

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      theolodian@mastodon.social
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      @monkeyborg this is a pretty good summary of my concerns. LLMs are patronising and sycophantic. With a bit of interaction I can get sophisticated results that I really like. But there’s this nagging feeling that it’s just figuring out what I want to hear…

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      • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

        All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

        “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

        Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

        mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
        mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
        mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
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        #8

        @monkeyborg

        I was a mediocre coder until I started using Claude, and my productivity went through the roof.

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        • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

          All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

          “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

          Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

          samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
          samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @monkeyborg only to people incapable of any serious discrimination, like Joseph Weizenbaum's secretary who asked him to leave the room so she could converse in private with Eliza, the first chatbot, which she had seen him working on.

          Claude routinely tells me things I don't already know and which are immediately verifiable and it routinely tells me things are wrong, out of date, inaccurate.

          Only a credulous fool would trust a probabilistic algorithm as an oracle. Who knew?

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            #10

            @anne_twain @sashin I apologize, I intended no disrespect.

            I don't believe that's a human-written article. My day job involves editing articles for a university magazine. The writing style here immediately felt off to me, much like an AI-generated image feels off. There is too much imitation of writing formalisms, too little specific information.

            I could be wrong. But I can't find a Linda Tran at Berkeley. Even if there were, why would a physicist be writing an article on human psychology?

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            • samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS samueljohnson@mstdn.social

              @monkeyborg only to people incapable of any serious discrimination, like Joseph Weizenbaum's secretary who asked him to leave the room so she could converse in private with Eliza, the first chatbot, which she had seen him working on.

              Claude routinely tells me things I don't already know and which are immediately verifiable and it routinely tells me things are wrong, out of date, inaccurate.

              Only a credulous fool would trust a probabilistic algorithm as an oracle. Who knew?

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              #11

              @samueljohnson While I agree with the kernel of what you're saying, I don't see any need to insult people who may have gotten taken in — or to imagine that people who possess better-than-average critical thinking skills are immune.

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              • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                @samueljohnson While I agree with the kernel of what you're saying, I don't see any need to insult people who may have gotten taken in — or to imagine that people who possess better-than-average critical thinking skills are immune.

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                #12

                @monkeyborg I am merely very weary of the endless sweeping generalizations about AI we're increasingly subjected to. No insult intended, presumably any more than in your unfortunate invocation of spirit medium based fraud.

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                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                  @monkeyborg

                  I was a mediocre coder until I started using Claude, and my productivity went through the roof.

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                  @mastodonmigration @monkeyborg so, why should I not fire you and hire a 16 year old
                  kid to use Claude instead?

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                  • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                    All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

                    “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

                    Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

                    jabsonik@ihan.outo.laJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @monkeyborg "I was sceptical of drugs, but then I tried heroin.”

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                      #15

                      @anne_twain @monkeyborg @sashin but that is definitely 100% an AI-generated webpage. There's not much to debate here.

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                      • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                        All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

                        “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

                        Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

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                        ranja@mastodon.art
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                        #16

                        @monkeyborg
                        Except that I'd still trust a psychic a million times more than an llm.

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                        • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                          All those people saying “I was skeptical of AI, until I tried Claude and I was amazed that it could tell me this and this and this” sound just like

                          “I was skeptical of psychics, but then Madame Fortuna told me something only my dead wife would know!”

                          Human perception has certain well-documented flaws that confidence men prey upon, and you are not immune from these

                          apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @monkeyborg

                          Just in case you or anyone reading this missed @baldur 's excellent 2023 article on this very topic, here it is. 👇🏼

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                          The LLMentalist Effect: how chat-based Large Language Models rep…

                          How to make better software with systems-thinking

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                          Out of the Software Crisis (softwarecrisis.dev)

                          It's well worth a read!

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                          • monkeyborg@triangletoot.partyM monkeyborg@triangletoot.party

                            @anne_twain @sashin I apologize, I intended no disrespect.

                            I don't believe that's a human-written article. My day job involves editing articles for a university magazine. The writing style here immediately felt off to me, much like an AI-generated image feels off. There is too much imitation of writing formalisms, too little specific information.

                            I could be wrong. But I can't find a Linda Tran at Berkeley. Even if there were, why would a physicist be writing an article on human psychology?

                            mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @monkeyborg @anne_twain @sashin Agreed, additionally it would be unusual to use the "Prof." title as opposed to "Dr.". The bio reads like a field from a database of prompts.

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                            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                              @monkeyborg

                              I was a mediocre coder until I started using Claude, and my productivity went through the roof.

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                              @mastodonmigration @monkeyborg

                              How did you measure that productivity?

                              (I assume your post is sarcastic)

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