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Ok what are possible Discord alternatives?

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  • thedarktangent@defcon.socialT thedarktangent@defcon.social

    Ok what are possible Discord alternatives?

    zeank@mastodon.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @thedarktangent @Em0nM4stodon depending on your needs Movim (https://movim.eu) might or might not be a good fit.

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    • thedarktangent@defcon.socialT thedarktangent@defcon.social

      Ok what are possible Discord alternatives?

      soph@grrl.meS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @thedarktangent

      Just saw this: https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@mdiluz/116043145998840217

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      • thedarktangent@defcon.socialT thedarktangent@defcon.social

        Ok what are possible Discord alternatives?

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        @thedarktangent https://mstdn.social/@hkrn/116043905590233460

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        • thedarktangent@defcon.socialT thedarktangent@defcon.social

          Ok what are possible Discord alternatives?

          csepp@merveilles.townC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @thedarktangent Depends on what purpose you have in mind.
          I've used Matrix the most so I'll try to comment on what it's fit/unfit for.
          E2EE: sometimes it breaks, hence the infamous "unable to decrypt message" meme
          system load: Synapse is known to use lots of resources, you definitely can't just leave it unattended for months, it will fill up disk space. Other implementations are lighter but support fewer features. Less of a problem if you disable federation.
          clients: Element is pretty heavy, the others lag behind in featured / bug fixes. Even Nheko isn't exactly lightweight.
          voice/video chat: Native calls actually work pretty smoothly now, but I haven't tried screen sharing or group calls.
          moderation: Moderation tools are lacking. Permission system is also not very fine grained and AFAIK uses "power levels" instead of ACLs.
          notifications: Still doesn't have a "mentions" list, or maybe it does but it's in beta. If you have a busy "inbox", you will get lost.

          I see others recommending it as the default Discord alternative and I think that should be taken with a heap of salt. It's certainly viable for some niches, but expect some flaws.

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          • csepp@merveilles.townC csepp@merveilles.town

            @thedarktangent Depends on what purpose you have in mind.
            I've used Matrix the most so I'll try to comment on what it's fit/unfit for.
            E2EE: sometimes it breaks, hence the infamous "unable to decrypt message" meme
            system load: Synapse is known to use lots of resources, you definitely can't just leave it unattended for months, it will fill up disk space. Other implementations are lighter but support fewer features. Less of a problem if you disable federation.
            clients: Element is pretty heavy, the others lag behind in featured / bug fixes. Even Nheko isn't exactly lightweight.
            voice/video chat: Native calls actually work pretty smoothly now, but I haven't tried screen sharing or group calls.
            moderation: Moderation tools are lacking. Permission system is also not very fine grained and AFAIK uses "power levels" instead of ACLs.
            notifications: Still doesn't have a "mentions" list, or maybe it does but it's in beta. If you have a busy "inbox", you will get lost.

            I see others recommending it as the default Discord alternative and I think that should be taken with a heap of salt. It's certainly viable for some niches, but expect some flaws.

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            @thedarktangent re: E2EE, I will say that I've had unrecoverable OMEMO issues on XMPP where we had to disable encryption completely, so if you need encryption, XMPP is not great either.

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            • thedarktangent@defcon.socialT thedarktangent@defcon.social

              Ok what are possible Discord alternatives?

              benjamim@social.lolB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @thedarktangent this https://social.lol/@neatnik/116042076134642192

              cc/ @Em0nM4stodon

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              • thedarktangent@defcon.socialT thedarktangent@defcon.social

                Ok what are possible Discord alternatives?

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                @thedarktangent
                https://movim.eu/

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                • thedarktangent@defcon.socialT thedarktangent@defcon.social

                  Ok what are possible Discord alternatives?

                  retech@defcon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #24

                  @thedarktangent mov.im, matrix, roll your own phpbb, ???

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                  • nosirrahsec@infosec.exchangeN nosirrahsec@infosec.exchange

                    @adamshostack @thedarktangent We're such a unique group of people that if we went to IRC we'd have thousands upon thousands of experts on IRC administration lol (or at least the technical acumen to learn it)

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                    @NosirrahSec @adamshostack @thedarktangent At least 10x in the last 2 weeks IRC has come up in various convos I've been part of. I'd love to see that come back and I suspect a great many other people would too.

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                    • nightdice@unfug.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #26

                      @skribe
                      It's called Stoat now but it's still not quite ready to work as a proper replacement from my brief experiments earlier in the year.
                      @thedarktangent @drwho

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