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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

    This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

    madonius@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    madonius@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #52

    @sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context? ๐Ÿ˜…

    meyerweb@mastodon.socialM aprilfollies@mastodon.onlineA sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS 3 Replies Last reply
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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

      tbortels@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #53

      @sundogplanets

      Block early, block often. This is the way.

      If you feel the need to explain, send the wondermark sea lion comic, or a link. Then block. It might educate, but it won't make anyone happy.

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      • hadon@mastodon.socialH hadon@mastodon.social

        @jguillaumes @sundogplanets @cstross

        I was wondering the same. Specially that in the internet many times there are misunderstandings. We read sentences without having other cues (tone of voice, face expressions), so we can misunderstand a sentence. Specially that we are all from different backgrounds (different native languages, etc).

        Sometimes I read a sentence, reply, and 20 minutes later I realize I misunderstood ๐Ÿ˜„ (and come back to correct or apologize, whatever is needed ).

        drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @hadon @jguillaumes @sundogplanets @cstross a big giveaway is they get defensive and/or double-down at any reply that isn't full agreement and some that actually are.

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        • madonius@chaos.socialM madonius@chaos.social

          @sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context? ๐Ÿ˜…

          meyerweb@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
          meyerweb@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #55

          @madonius I bet entering โ€œreplies sea lionโ€ in your search engine of choice will be explanatory.

          shadesofraye@mastodon.socialS pedroleal_@mastodon.socialP 2 Replies Last reply
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          • madonius@chaos.socialM madonius@chaos.social

            @sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context? ๐Ÿ˜…

            aprilfollies@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @madonius

            Jeffrey Haas (@jhaas@a2mi.social)

            @bur_d@mastodon.social @sundogplanets@mastodon.social https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

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            Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti & Friends Community (a2mi.social)

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

              This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

              mpotter@social.coopM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #57

              @sundogplanets I've blocked and unfollowed more accounts here on Mastadon than I ever did on Twitter. It's opposite of what I expected.

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              • meyerweb@mastodon.socialM meyerweb@mastodon.social

                @madonius I bet entering โ€œreplies sea lionโ€ in your search engine of choice will be explanatory.

                shadesofraye@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #58

                @Meyerweb
                God forbid people discuss things on SOCIAL media.

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                  This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                  paelnever@masto.esP This user is from outside of this forum
                  paelnever@masto.esP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @sundogplanets

                  I'm sorry to say that "not apologizing" is a default behavior for all people nowadays, not only mansplainers.

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                  • moelassus@mastodon.socialM moelassus@mastodon.social

                    @jrp I suspect your right. Itโ€™s also possible that Iโ€™m just really bad at snark. ๐Ÿค”

                    jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Moe Lassus Eventually there's three possible kinds: irony, sarcasm and cynicism. Good to stay with irony ๐Ÿ™‚
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                    • jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ jrp@hub.kliklak.net
                      @Moe Lassus Eventually there's three possible kinds: irony, sarcasm and cynicism. Good to stay with irony ๐Ÿ™‚
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                      #61

                      @jrp I was aiming at the irony of the situation but I apparently missed the mark. They clearly interpreted my comment as being favorable toward what they were being critical of.

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                      • madonius@chaos.socialM madonius@chaos.social

                        @sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context? ๐Ÿ˜…

                        sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #62

                        @madonius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

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                        • jik@federate.socialJ jik@federate.social

                          @sundogplanets I try really hard to call out bad behavior in _other_ people's threads because it lands really differently when it comes from someone other than the target, and I think it's important to be an upstander.

                          sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #63

                          @jik This is incredibly important service work, thank you!

                          Also, let me just take this opportunity to say that I learn so much about so many different topics from your posts, so thank you for that as well!

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            @Kierkegaanks Shitpost jokes welcome! Entitled mansplaining, not so much ๐Ÿ™‚

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                            @sundogplanets @Kierkegaanks

                            I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT
                            YOUR STATEMENT.

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                            • david@fouroclockfarms.clubD david@fouroclockfarms.club

                              @sundogplanets @Kierkegaanks

                              I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT
                              YOUR STATEMENT.

                              kierkegaanks@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @david @sundogplanets CAN YOU PLEASE KWALIFY THAT WITH CITATIONS?

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                fartnuggets@jorts.horseF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @sundogplanets having visibility into this kind of correction helps guys like me figure out how to better exist in this place. Even if the mansplainers and sea lions don't get it, I learn from it when you take the time and effort to address it.

                                Really appreciate it. ๐Ÿ’œ

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                                • meyerweb@mastodon.socialM meyerweb@mastodon.social

                                  @madonius I bet entering โ€œreplies sea lionโ€ in your search engine of choice will be explanatory.

                                  pedroleal_@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @Meyerweb @madonius the best I got was " a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence"... is this it?

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                                  • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                                    @david @sundogplanets CAN YOU PLEASE KWALIFY THAT WITH CITATIONS?

                                    david@fouroclockfarms.clubD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #68

                                    @Kierkegaanks @sundogplanets

                                    HOW DO YOU KNOW THOSE STUDIES ARENT BOASED?

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                      sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #69

                                      An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

                                      Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                      Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                      • david@fouroclockfarms.clubD david@fouroclockfarms.club

                                        @Kierkegaanks @sundogplanets

                                        HOW DO YOU KNOW THOSE STUDIES ARENT BOASED?

                                        kierkegaanks@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #70

                                        @david @sundogplanets Iโ€™M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                          This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                          galacticstone@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @sundogplanets where does the Common Pedant fall on the family tree of Mansplainers, Sealions, and Reply Guys?

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