Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
One of the few things from Dune Messiah that stuck with me before I gave up on it was the Bene Tleilaxu notion of warning your enemy of the trap you have set for them as an honourable thing to do.
I've found myself falling into a similar pattern in Internet fight.
All of which is to say, you could reframe your practice as being the honourable thing.
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Why not just ignore them? If you block them they won't have a chance to learn anything anymore.
You explain once and if they don't like it or accept it then just ignore them. You don't need to explain twice.
blocking them removes them from the network centered on the op's posts and reduces their visability. it's remote ostracization and i think it's warranted. they can make a new account or find another account posting awesome things.
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
@sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context?
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
Block early, block often. This is the way.
If you feel the need to explain, send the wondermark sea lion comic, or a link. Then block. It might educate, but it won't make anyone happy.
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@jguillaumes @sundogplanets @cstross
I was wondering the same. Specially that in the internet many times there are misunderstandings. We read sentences without having other cues (tone of voice, face expressions), so we can misunderstand a sentence. Specially that we are all from different backgrounds (different native languages, etc).
Sometimes I read a sentence, reply, and 20 minutes later I realize I misunderstood
(and come back to correct or apologize, whatever is needed ).@hadon @jguillaumes @sundogplanets @cstross a big giveaway is they get defensive and/or double-down at any reply that isn't full agreement and some that actually are.
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@sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context?
@madonius I bet entering “replies sea lion” in your search engine of choice will be explanatory.
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@sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context?
Jeffrey Haas (@jhaas@a2mi.social)
@bur_d@mastodon.social @sundogplanets@mastodon.social https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti & Friends Community (a2mi.social)
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
@sundogplanets I've blocked and unfollowed more accounts here on Mastadon than I ever did on Twitter. It's opposite of what I expected.
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@madonius I bet entering “replies sea lion” in your search engine of choice will be explanatory.
@Meyerweb
God forbid people discuss things on SOCIAL media. -
Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
I'm sorry to say that "not apologizing" is a default behavior for all people nowadays, not only mansplainers.
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@jrp I suspect your right. It’s also possible that I’m just really bad at snark.
@Moe Lassus Eventually there's three possible kinds: irony, sarcasm and cynicism. Good to stay with irony
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@Moe Lassus Eventually there's three possible kinds: irony, sarcasm and cynicism. Good to stay with irony
@jrp I was aiming at the irony of the situation but I apparently missed the mark. They clearly interpreted my comment as being favorable toward what they were being critical of.
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@sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context?
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@sundogplanets I try really hard to call out bad behavior in _other_ people's threads because it lands really differently when it comes from someone other than the target, and I think it's important to be an upstander.
@jik This is incredibly important service work, thank you!
Also, let me just take this opportunity to say that I learn so much about so many different topics from your posts, so thank you for that as well!
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@Kierkegaanks Shitpost jokes welcome! Entitled mansplaining, not so much
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT
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I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT
YOUR STATEMENT.@david @sundogplanets CAN YOU PLEASE KWALIFY THAT WITH CITATIONS?
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
@sundogplanets having visibility into this kind of correction helps guys like me figure out how to better exist in this place. Even if the mansplainers and sea lions don't get it, I learn from it when you take the time and effort to address it.
Really appreciate it.
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@madonius I bet entering “replies sea lion” in your search engine of choice will be explanatory.
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@david @sundogplanets CAN YOU PLEASE KWALIFY THAT WITH CITATIONS?
HOW DO YOU KNOW THOSE STUDIES ARENT BOASED?
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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.
This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.
An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)
Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart
