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  3. @screwlisp is having some site connectivity problems so asked me to remind everyone that we'll be on the anonradio forum at the top of the hour (a bit less than ten minutes hence) for those who like that kind of thing:

@screwlisp is having some site connectivity problems so asked me to remind everyone that we'll be on the anonradio forum at the top of the hour (a bit less than ten minutes hence) for those who like that kind of thing:

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  • ewhac@mastodon.socialE ewhac@mastodon.social

    @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman @screwlisp @wrog @dougmerritt @cdegroot
    I was using ^S/^Q last night to pause some fast-moving `make` output to check to see if the thing that should have gotten built got built.

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    @ewhac
    It comes up far less often in today's windowing environments, but we've got those reflexes as a must from the bad old days, eh?

    @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman @screwlisp @wrog @cdegroot

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    • dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyzD dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz

      @ewhac
      It comes up far less often in today's windowing environments, but we've got those reflexes as a must from the bad old days, eh?

      @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman @screwlisp @wrog @cdegroot

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      @dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz @ewhac@mastodon.social that is a good use for ^S/^Q, although I tend to use ^Z for that instead.

      And since switching to Emacs and controlling my remote terminals using the TRAMP system, I haven't actually had to think too much about sending control characters directly to a TTY device. I just let Emacs buffer all the output and C-r search through the buffer.

      @kentpitman@climatejustice.social @screwlisp@gamerplus.org @wrog@mastodon.murkworks.net @cdegroot@mstdn.ca

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      • wrog@mastodon.murkworks.netW wrog@mastodon.murkworks.net

        @screwlisp @dougmerritt @mousebot @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman

        figuring out how to split up a toot is solving the wrong problem. In my cases I *know* how I want to split it up.

        what I want is the ability to create a sequence of posts, edit them all in place, shuffle text around + attach media and polls wherever I want, get them all looking right,

        and then send them all in one fell swoop.

        I think the key concept is being able to compose a reply to a draft.

        i.e., In-Reply-To is a buffer rather than a URL

        Posting the reply automatically posts the In-Reply-To **first**. And likewise for longer chains.

        Make that work in a reasonable way, and everything else follows.

        (I'm up to 5000 chars in my draft reply on codeberg...)

        cy@fedicy.us.toC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #112
        What I do for that is craft one single long post. Because it's not like there would be a character limit, right? That would be silly.

        CC: @screwlisp@gamerplus.org @dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz @mousebot@todon.nl @cdegroot@mstdn.ca @ramin_hal9001@fe.disroot.org @kentpitman@climatejustice.social
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        • kentpitman@climatejustice.socialK kentpitman@climatejustice.social

          @screwlisp is having some site connectivity problems so asked me to remind everyone that we'll be on the anonradio forum at the top of the hour (a bit less than ten minutes hence) for those who like that kind of thing:

          https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio

          He'll also be monitoring LambdaMOO at "telnet lambda.moo.mud.org 8888" for those who do that kind of thing. there are also emacs clients you should get if you're REALLY using telnet.

          Topic for today, I'm told, may include the climate, the war, the oil price hikes, some rambles I've recently posted on CLIM, and the book by @cdegroot called The Genius of Lisp, which we'll also revisit again next week.

          cc @ramin_hal9001

          #LispyGopher #Gopher #Lisp #CommonLisp

          mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @kentpitman @screwlisp @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 I feel so old just for knowing what a MOO is. Awesome.

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          • cy@fedicy.us.toC cy@fedicy.us.to
            What I do for that is craft one single long post. Because it's not like there would be a character limit, right? That would be silly.

            CC: @screwlisp@gamerplus.org @dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz @mousebot@todon.nl @cdegroot@mstdn.ca @ramin_hal9001@fe.disroot.org @kentpitman@climatejustice.social
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            #114

            @cy
            Presumably you're joking. But different of us suffer different character limits. My server, Mathstodon.xyz, has a limit of 1729 characters -- but for most servers it's significantly less.

            And some may be larger. Yours, perhaps. But that doesn't help others.

            @screwlisp @mousebot @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman @wrog

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            • dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyzD dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz

              @cy
              Presumably you're joking. But different of us suffer different character limits. My server, Mathstodon.xyz, has a limit of 1729 characters -- but for most servers it's significantly less.

              And some may be larger. Yours, perhaps. But that doesn't help others.

              @screwlisp @mousebot @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman @wrog

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              I'm joking, yes. And also criticizing those servers. But honestly, I don't like writing super long posts. I feel like I'm ignoring people and not letting them get in a word edgewise. When I consider ranting about something in long form, I try to write a little bit at a time, and give people a chance to respond before writing more. Make it a conversation instead of an essay.

              Or sometimes if I just don't care I'll splurg it all out and hope that nobody bothers reading that shit.

              CC: @screwlisp@gamerplus.org @mousebot@todon.nl @cdegroot@mstdn.ca @ramin_hal9001@fe.disroot.org @kentpitman@climatejustice.social @wrog@mastodon.murkworks.net
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              • cy@fedicy.us.toC cy@fedicy.us.to
                I'm joking, yes. And also criticizing those servers. But honestly, I don't like writing super long posts. I feel like I'm ignoring people and not letting them get in a word edgewise. When I consider ranting about something in long form, I try to write a little bit at a time, and give people a chance to respond before writing more. Make it a conversation instead of an essay.

                Or sometimes if I just don't care I'll splurg it all out and hope that nobody bothers reading that shit.

                CC: @screwlisp@gamerplus.org @mousebot@todon.nl @cdegroot@mstdn.ca @ramin_hal9001@fe.disroot.org @kentpitman@climatejustice.social @wrog@mastodon.murkworks.net
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                @cy
                > I feel like I'm ignoring people and not letting them get in a word edgewise

                The world could use more people with that perception! Too many people do that and obviously don't notice they're doing that.

                @screwlisp @mousebot @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman @wrog

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                • mikebabcock@floss.socialM mikebabcock@floss.social

                  @kentpitman @screwlisp @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 I feel so old just for knowing what a MOO is. Awesome.

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                  Geeks under a certain age are impressed by the idea one was messing about in massively multiplayer worlds in the 1980s. It was early!

                  I ran into TinyMUD first, and via TinyMUCK their Forth-based MUD language, MUF. Something about programming in MUDs lent itself to thinking in objects though and thinking about the things I wished I could do I (later realized I) started reverse-engineering object-oriented coding.

                  (I'd had earlier encounters w LISP, so at some point I realized what I was doing.)

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                  • cy@fedicy.us.toC cy@fedicy.us.to
                    I'm joking, yes. And also criticizing those servers. But honestly, I don't like writing super long posts. I feel like I'm ignoring people and not letting them get in a word edgewise. When I consider ranting about something in long form, I try to write a little bit at a time, and give people a chance to respond before writing more. Make it a conversation instead of an essay.

                    Or sometimes if I just don't care I'll splurg it all out and hope that nobody bothers reading that shit.

                    CC: @screwlisp@gamerplus.org @mousebot@todon.nl @cdegroot@mstdn.ca @ramin_hal9001@fe.disroot.org @kentpitman@climatejustice.social @wrog@mastodon.murkworks.net
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                    @cy @screwlisp @mousebot @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman @dougmerritt

                    It's Twitter Culture. We're all supposed to speak in sound bites. Dorsey or whoever decided if you can't fit it in 130 chars, it's not worth saying. Then at some point they doubled it and thought that was generous enough.

                    And now short posts are what people expect.

                    LJ never had a limit.

                    Hell, **Usenet** never had a limit and we were suffering under far worse resource constraints back then.

                    I miss Usenet.

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                    • wrog@mastodon.murkworks.netW wrog@mastodon.murkworks.net

                      @cy @screwlisp @mousebot @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman @dougmerritt

                      It's Twitter Culture. We're all supposed to speak in sound bites. Dorsey or whoever decided if you can't fit it in 130 chars, it's not worth saying. Then at some point they doubled it and thought that was generous enough.

                      And now short posts are what people expect.

                      LJ never had a limit.

                      Hell, **Usenet** never had a limit and we were suffering under far worse resource constraints back then.

                      I miss Usenet.

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                      @wrog
                      I miss Usenet, too. But it suffered a shortage of cat videos, so it had to go.

                      @cy @screwlisp @mousebot @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman

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                      • wrog@mastodon.murkworks.netW wrog@mastodon.murkworks.net

                        @cy @screwlisp @mousebot @cdegroot @ramin_hal9001 @kentpitman @dougmerritt

                        It's Twitter Culture. We're all supposed to speak in sound bites. Dorsey or whoever decided if you can't fit it in 130 chars, it's not worth saying. Then at some point they doubled it and thought that was generous enough.

                        And now short posts are what people expect.

                        LJ never had a limit.

                        Hell, **Usenet** never had a limit and we were suffering under far worse resource constraints back then.

                        I miss Usenet.

                        ramin_hal9001@fe.disroot.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @wrog@mastodon.murkworks.net my instance has a 5000 character limit, but I rarely type that much. Most of my posts are three or four paragraphs. I could probably make do with 2500 characters, but it is nice to have a little extra space so I don't feel like I have to watch the character counter so closely. And I have space to write in complete sentences, to include example code, paste long URLs, and quote parts of other posts inline.

                        @cy@fedicy.us.to @screwlisp@gamerplus.org @mousebot@todon.nl @cdegroot@mstdn.ca @kentpitman@climatejustice.social @dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz

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