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  3. Leute, bitte holt euch Solarpanels, bisschen Speicher, wenn möglich, steigt auf Wärmepumpe um.

Leute, bitte holt euch Solarpanels, bisschen Speicher, wenn möglich, steigt auf Wärmepumpe um.

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  • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

    @NixNick Somebody told me the German government completely funds those small balcony solar systems in certain cities 🙂

    @energisch_ @Bundesregierung

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    @madeindex

    Some municipalies actually do, not designed as „completely“, but with flat amounts, and if you have the right conditions and Shop smartly, you could end up in Break even extremely fast.

    Actually the Panels aren’t the biggest driver on the Shopping list; mostly, mounting is it.

    @NixNick @energisch_ @Bundesregierung

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    • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

      @madeindex not completely, but you get really cheap deals and almost everywhere is possible. It's a small impact, but together, millions, it's gigawatts that are not needed in fossil fuels. @NixNick @Bundesregierung

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      @energisch_
      Locally used ❤ The networks and large scale storage needed for a broader impact are sadly not even close to ready in most countries. @NixNick @Bundesregierung

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      • saupreiss@pfalz.socialS saupreiss@pfalz.social

        @energisch_

        Leider sind viele Bürgerwerke, was Anteilshöhe und Bindefristen angeht, schon eher was für jene, die es sich leisten können.

        (Mal davon ab, dass ich persönlich ein Investment davon abhängig machen würde, ob zeitgleich und möglichst am Standort auch Speicher entstehen, was leider selten ist.)

        @Bundesregierung

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        @Saupreiss Speicherausbau hängt auch davon ab, wie viele Stromabnehmer*innen sie haben und wie viel Geld zur Verfügung steht. Aber es gibt auch Anbieter wie polarstern, greenpeace energy, lichtblick, die auch in erneuerbare Energien investieren und die mensch als Kund*in unterstützen kann. Auch viele Stadtwerke sind gut aufgestellt mit erneuerbarem Ausbau. Also gucken, wo was geht. Hauptsache, so bald wie möglich ganz raus aus den Fossilen @Bundesregierung
        #EndFossilFuels

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        • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

          @NixNick Somebody told me the German government completely funds those small balcony solar systems in certain cities 🙂

          @energisch_ @Bundesregierung

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          @madeindex @energisch_ @NixNick @Bundesregierung That’s wrong. But they pay themselves within 1- 3 years.

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          • byggvir@nrw.socialB byggvir@nrw.social

            @madeindex

            They don't. They received support at times. But when I bought my balcony power plant in 2023, the city's funding pool was already empty.

            @NixNick @energisch_ @Bundesregierung

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            @byggvir
            Found this:
            https://kleineskraftwerk.de/blogs/magazin/interaktive-karte-uber-fordergelder
            And this:
            https://www.finanztip.de/photovoltaik/balkon-solaranlage/foerderung/

            Maybe useful to some from those regions 🙂
            @NixNick @energisch_ @Bundesregierung

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            • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

              @energisch_
              Locally used ❤ The networks and large scale storage needed for a broader impact are sadly not even close to ready in most countries. @NixNick @Bundesregierung

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              @madeindex It would be so much easier with a supportive government. But in Germany, we have to succeed despite all the obstacles our gov puts in our way. Our current @Bundesregierung is a fossilist gov. Unfortunately.
              @NixNick

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              • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                @Saupreiss Speicherausbau hängt auch davon ab, wie viele Stromabnehmer*innen sie haben und wie viel Geld zur Verfügung steht. Aber es gibt auch Anbieter wie polarstern, greenpeace energy, lichtblick, die auch in erneuerbare Energien investieren und die mensch als Kund*in unterstützen kann. Auch viele Stadtwerke sind gut aufgestellt mit erneuerbarem Ausbau. Also gucken, wo was geht. Hauptsache, so bald wie möglich ganz raus aus den Fossilen @Bundesregierung
                #EndFossilFuels

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                @energisch_

                Mit fortschreitendem Ausbau ist es erstens ein wirtschaftliches Risiko (viel Strom für lau erzeugen ist weniger spannend, als den danach zu verhökern), die meist potente Netzanbindung kann man auch gut nutzen, um „überschüssigen“ Sonnenstrom in den Abend zu retten, dafür sind die Spreads hoch genug. Netzdienlich, lukrativ, dezentral und Gaskillend.

                @Bundesregierung

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                • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                  @byggvir @madeindex @NixNick @energisch_ @Bundesregierung The problem with the UK proposal, according to electricians, is that there are no UK standards applicable to such kit. So, unless something is done about it, anybody can sell any old dangerous crap, and anyone can then buy and use it.

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                  @TimWardCam Highly interesting!
                  Do you by any chance know the specific issue they have?
                  @byggvir @NixNick @energisch_ @Bundesregierung

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                  • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                    @madeindex It would be so much easier with a supportive government. But in Germany, we have to succeed despite all the obstacles our gov puts in our way. Our current @Bundesregierung is a fossilist gov. Unfortunately.
                    @NixNick

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                    @energisch_
                    Guess this is for you too then ❤
                    https://mastodon.social/@madeindex/114133104483587481

                    Yeah, the people of the world would do it themselves if the bureaucracy, taxes and legal weren't so high & difficult.

                    Localized smart grids for electricity & heat (e.g. from factories etc.) could easily solve the energy problems.

                    But it would also reduce dependance, not sure that is in the interest of our Elites...

                    @Bundesregierung @NixNick

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                    • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                      @madeindex It would be so much easier with a supportive government. But in Germany, we have to succeed despite all the obstacles our gov puts in our way. Our current @Bundesregierung is a fossilist gov. Unfortunately.
                      @NixNick

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                      @energisch_ When you travel the middle east, you would imagine solar panels everywhere right? Nowhere to be seen. @Bundesregierung @NixNick

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                      • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                        @energisch_
                        Guess this is for you too then ❤
                        https://mastodon.social/@madeindex/114133104483587481

                        Yeah, the people of the world would do it themselves if the bureaucracy, taxes and legal weren't so high & difficult.

                        Localized smart grids for electricity & heat (e.g. from factories etc.) could easily solve the energy problems.

                        But it would also reduce dependance, not sure that is in the interest of our Elites...

                        @Bundesregierung @NixNick

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                        @madeindex exacty, they don't want our energy independence, they rather see us in chains & :shackles @Bundesregierung @NixNick

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                        • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                          @madeindex exacty, they don't want our energy independence, they rather see us in chains & :shackles @Bundesregierung @NixNick

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                          @energisch_ Easier to control & milk us slaves 😉

                          These days there are even hybrid solar thermal panels. These can produce your heat, hot water and energy all in one.
                          Guess how much they are doing to push those to the mainstream?

                          You guessed right, ZERO, only people in the field even know about them. Crazy right?

                          Example:
                          https://dualsun.com/en/products/dualsun-spring/

                          @Bundesregierung @NixNick

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                          • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                            @NixNick Jemand sagte @madeindex dass die Regierung Balkonsolar in einigen Städten fast komplett finanziert. Hab geschrieben, dass sie billig sind und fast überall zum Einsatz kommen können, im Gesamtvolumen Gigawatt an fossiler Energie einsparen.

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                            @energisch_ @madeindex Danke!

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                            • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                              @energisch_ Easier to control & milk us slaves 😉

                              These days there are even hybrid solar thermal panels. These can produce your heat, hot water and energy all in one.
                              Guess how much they are doing to push those to the mainstream?

                              You guessed right, ZERO, only people in the field even know about them. Crazy right?

                              Example:
                              https://dualsun.com/en/products/dualsun-spring/

                              @Bundesregierung @NixNick

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                              @madeindex @Bundesregierung @NixNick Looks very interesting, thx for the link!
                              Hier für die Leser*innen in deutsch: neue Solarpanels aus Frankreich, die oben PV sind und unten Solarthermie: https://dualsun.com/de/produkte/dualsun-spring/

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                              • nixnick@troet.cafeN nixnick@troet.cafe

                                @energisch_ @madeindex Danke!

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                                ❤ @NixNick @energisch_ thanks for translating :))

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                                • no_brainer@mastodon.socialN no_brainer@mastodon.social

                                  @madeindex @energisch_ @NixNick @Bundesregierung That’s wrong. But they pay themselves within 1- 3 years.

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                                  @no_brainer
                                  There seem to be some places according to these websites I found 🙂
                                  https://mastodon.social/@madeindex/116285838181699473
                                  @energisch_ @NixNick @Bundesregierung

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                                  • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                                    @energisch_ When you travel the middle east, you would imagine solar panels everywhere right? Nowhere to be seen. @Bundesregierung @NixNick

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                                    @madeindex @energisch_ @Bundesregierung @NixNick Same in Croatia in 2024. Really strange. All the AC in buildings suck electric power during summer, and could be completely powered by solar panels. But there was just nothing.

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                                    • neuimneuland@mastodon.socialN neuimneuland@mastodon.social

                                      @madeindex @energisch_ @Bundesregierung @NixNick Same in Croatia in 2024. Really strange. All the AC in buildings suck electric power during summer, and could be completely powered by solar panels. But there was just nothing.

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                                      @neuimneuland
                                      I guess there is little incentive for many and little education on the subject. In countries with low electricity prices, the adoption seems to be much slower. One of the few advantages to Germany's & Denmark's insane prices? 🙂
                                      @energisch_ @Bundesregierung @NixNick

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                                      • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                                        @madeindex @Bundesregierung @NixNick Looks very interesting, thx for the link!
                                        Hier für die Leser*innen in deutsch: neue Solarpanels aus Frankreich, die oben PV sind und unten Solarthermie: https://dualsun.com/de/produkte/dualsun-spring/

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                                        @energisch_ @madeindex @Bundesregierung @NixNick Für mich leider ein Jahr zu spät. Aber irgendwann werden die aktuellen Module auch durch sein. In gut 10 Jahren oder so ...

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                                        • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                                          Leute, bitte holt euch Solarpanels, bisschen Speicher, wenn möglich, steigt auf Wärmepumpe um. Jetzt gibts noch Förderung, aber mit dieser @Bundesregierung ists ungewiss wie lange noch.
                                          Diese Regierung wirft uns in den Rachen von Diktatoren, Kriminellen und Abzockern. Wer jetzt weitgehend energieunabhängig werden kann, ist klar im Vorteil. Und Unabhängigkeit gibts nur mit #ErneuerbareEnergien

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                                          @energisch_ @Bundesregierung ich würde ja gerne. Aber will möglichst was ohne Cloud. Also Wechselrichter ohne Cloud etc.

                                          Und gerne aus der EU. 🙈

                                          Und ich wohne zur Miete. 🙈
                                          Mein Vermieter hat schon eine PV Anlage auf dem Dach. Daher fraglich ob ich von Balkonsolar profitieren würde. 😅🙈

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