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  3. She’s hearing from people sick with the virus, as well as their caregivers, that “measles is so much worse than what they expected.”

She’s hearing from people sick with the virus, as well as their caregivers, that “measles is so much worse than what they expected.”

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  • thepoliticalcat@mastodon.socialT thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social

    @RedRobyn @bicmay @MissConstrue Yes, it resets your immune system to zero, so that you are a sitting duck for every opportunistic infection that comes your way. All your hard-earned immunity gone in an instant.

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    @thepoliticalcat
    My understanding of why they went looking is that when they eliminated it in an area they expected the overall death rate to go down in line with what the measles death rate had been. Instead it went down more, and a reduction in other infections seemed the most likely explanation
    @bicmay @MissConstrue

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    • bicmay@med-mastodon.comB bicmay@med-mastodon.com

      @MissConstrue @thepoliticalcat

      I'm glad you were able to get the measles vaccine as soon as you could! As a family doc, I also like preconception visits where I can review a patient's risk factors and let them know what they can do to have a safe outcome if they want to become pregnant.

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      @bicmay @MissConstrue @thepoliticalcat

      I've said this before: my mom was born in '36 (90yo in April). She remembers classmates DYING of polio, whooping cough, and yes, measles. You can bet your bippie she got me (b. '64) Every. Single. Vaccine.

      People have blinkers on & cannot admit HOW BAD these now-preventable diseases were just 2 generations ago! Almighty Google and *influencers* are better experts in their view.

      🐆meet😑 #FAFO

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      • bicmay@med-mastodon.comB bicmay@med-mastodon.com

        She’s hearing from people sick with the virus, as well as their caregivers, that “measles is so much worse than what they expected.”

        “A number of them clearly said if they had known, they would have vaccinated themselves and their children against measles, but they didn’t realize how bad it was,” Nolen said.

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        Measles is 'worse than expected' in Utah, officials say

        In southern Utah, a measles outbreak that’s been simmering since last summer is showing signs of wider spread.

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        #PublicHealth #measles #vaccines #immunizations #prevention #outbreak #utah #ChildrensHealth #PrimaryCare

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        @bicmay

        fucking idiots

        dangerous child abusing fucking idiots

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        • bicmay@med-mastodon.comB bicmay@med-mastodon.com

          She’s hearing from people sick with the virus, as well as their caregivers, that “measles is so much worse than what they expected.”

          “A number of them clearly said if they had known, they would have vaccinated themselves and their children against measles, but they didn’t realize how bad it was,” Nolen said.

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          Measles is 'worse than expected' in Utah, officials say

          In southern Utah, a measles outbreak that’s been simmering since last summer is showing signs of wider spread.

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          NBC News (www.nbcnews.com)

          #PublicHealth #measles #vaccines #immunizations #prevention #outbreak #utah #ChildrensHealth #PrimaryCare

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          @bicmay if the vaccine skeptics walked in an old cemetery maybe the presence of tombstones with children's names might cause them to question their beliefs. Infant mortality was high before vaccines

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          • thepoliticalcat@mastodon.socialT thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social

            @RedRobyn @bicmay @MissConstrue Yes, it resets your immune system to zero, so that you are a sitting duck for every opportunistic infection that comes your way. All your hard-earned immunity gone in an instant.

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            @thepoliticalcat @RedRobyn @bicmay @MissConstrue@mefi.social when I was a toddler I got Rubella. Three weeks later I got chickenpox. Measles are very dangerous and can definitely leave you vulnerable

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            • bicmay@med-mastodon.comB bicmay@med-mastodon.com

              She’s hearing from people sick with the virus, as well as their caregivers, that “measles is so much worse than what they expected.”

              “A number of them clearly said if they had known, they would have vaccinated themselves and their children against measles, but they didn’t realize how bad it was,” Nolen said.

              Link Preview Image
              Measles is 'worse than expected' in Utah, officials say

              In southern Utah, a measles outbreak that’s been simmering since last summer is showing signs of wider spread.

              favicon

              NBC News (www.nbcnews.com)

              #PublicHealth #measles #vaccines #immunizations #prevention #outbreak #utah #ChildrensHealth #PrimaryCare

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              @bicmay iF oNLy wE'd knOWn

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              • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                @bicmay @david_megginson @JackMexa4 But then you have stories from COVID even of people who nearly died from COVID where they STILL say they wouldn't get vaccinated

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                @JessTheUnstill @bicmay @david_megginson

                Yup, you have those cases too.

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                • faithinbones@mastodon.socialF faithinbones@mastodon.social

                  @thepoliticalcat @RedRobyn @bicmay @MissConstrue@mefi.social when I was a toddler I got Rubella. Three weeks later I got chickenpox. Measles are very dangerous and can definitely leave you vulnerable

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                  @FaithinBones @RedRobyn @bicmay When I was growing up, those were called "childhood diseases," because so many kids did not survive them. A neighbor's kid had rubella, and my Mom was determined to keep us apart - she felt like one childhood disease was as much as my system could handle.

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                  • pamelabarroway@mstdn.socialP pamelabarroway@mstdn.social

                    @bicmay @MissConstrue @thepoliticalcat

                    I've said this before: my mom was born in '36 (90yo in April). She remembers classmates DYING of polio, whooping cough, and yes, measles. You can bet your bippie she got me (b. '64) Every. Single. Vaccine.

                    People have blinkers on & cannot admit HOW BAD these now-preventable diseases were just 2 generations ago! Almighty Google and *influencers* are better experts in their view.

                    🐆meet😑 #FAFO

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                    @PamelaBarroway @bicmay @MissConstrue I was born in the early 1950s, and we didn't have most of the vaccines we have nowadays. I had classmates who never came back to class bc they were in an iron lung for life after the last polio epidemic. Or had passed on. We had yearly epidemics of whooping cough, diphtheria, cholera, malaria, measles, mumps, and rubella (also known as German measles, back then). I was SO GRATEFUL when vaccines arrived!

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                    • thepoliticalcat@mastodon.socialT thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social

                      @FaithinBones @RedRobyn @bicmay When I was growing up, those were called "childhood diseases," because so many kids did not survive them. A neighbor's kid had rubella, and my Mom was determined to keep us apart - she felt like one childhood disease was as much as my system could handle.

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                      @thepoliticalcat
                      My impression was they were called "childhood diseases" mainly because they were so ubiquitous and infectious that almost everyone got them in childhood. My mother was a posthumous child - her father died of a contagious illness 6 months before she was born. She was understandably keen on vaccination. All of us kids were born before the MMR vaccine became available, though most of us could at some stage get the measles vaccine. Her point of view regarding measles mumps and rubella was that measles was to be avoided as long as possible, but that mumps and rubella were only a concern in early childhood. With no vaccine available you definitely wanted your kids with testicles to get mumps before they hit puberty and your kids with ovaries to get rubella before they became pregnant. I know a couple of deaf people who were gestated during the same rubella outbreak.
                      Thankfully the diseases with the worst reputations for killing and maiming kids - polio, diptheria and pertussis were pretty rare here by the time I was born
                      @FaithinBones @bicmay

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                      • redrobyn@mastodon.nzR redrobyn@mastodon.nz

                        @thepoliticalcat
                        My impression was they were called "childhood diseases" mainly because they were so ubiquitous and infectious that almost everyone got them in childhood. My mother was a posthumous child - her father died of a contagious illness 6 months before she was born. She was understandably keen on vaccination. All of us kids were born before the MMR vaccine became available, though most of us could at some stage get the measles vaccine. Her point of view regarding measles mumps and rubella was that measles was to be avoided as long as possible, but that mumps and rubella were only a concern in early childhood. With no vaccine available you definitely wanted your kids with testicles to get mumps before they hit puberty and your kids with ovaries to get rubella before they became pregnant. I know a couple of deaf people who were gestated during the same rubella outbreak.
                        Thankfully the diseases with the worst reputations for killing and maiming kids - polio, diptheria and pertussis were pretty rare here by the time I was born
                        @FaithinBones @bicmay

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                        @RedRobyn @thepoliticalcat @bicmay when the polio vaccine became available my parents made sure we got it. We took the vaccines because my mother's oldest brother died of polio as a toddler. Both of my father's grandmothers died in a scarlet fever epidemic so he believed vaccines were life savers. The antivaxxers are playing a sad game with their lives and the lives of their children.

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                        • faithinbones@mastodon.socialF faithinbones@mastodon.social

                          @RedRobyn @thepoliticalcat @bicmay when the polio vaccine became available my parents made sure we got it. We took the vaccines because my mother's oldest brother died of polio as a toddler. Both of my father's grandmothers died in a scarlet fever epidemic so he believed vaccines were life savers. The antivaxxers are playing a sad game with their lives and the lives of their children.

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                          @FaithinBones
                          It's terrible isn't it? So many gruesome diseases we can prevent with so little risk, and yet here we are with polio on the rise, measles on the rise...
                          I hope it's not diptheria next- that one has a much higher death rate than polio. It appears in my kids family tree, as well as on a sad number of gravestones in cemeteries around the country
                          @thepoliticalcat @bicmay

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                          • redrobyn@mastodon.nzR redrobyn@mastodon.nz

                            @FaithinBones
                            It's terrible isn't it? So many gruesome diseases we can prevent with so little risk, and yet here we are with polio on the rise, measles on the rise...
                            I hope it's not diptheria next- that one has a much higher death rate than polio. It appears in my kids family tree, as well as on a sad number of gravestones in cemeteries around the country
                            @thepoliticalcat @bicmay

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                            @RedRobyn @thepoliticalcat @bicmay yes. One of my father's aunts died of diphtheria at age 32. If people knew their family history they'd make wiser decisions about their health. I've read old newspapers from Pennsylvania while doing family research and saw many obituaries of people who died in the Spanish Flu epidemic (which by the way started in the US and was brought to Europe by American soldiers)

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                            • redrobyn@mastodon.nzR redrobyn@mastodon.nz

                              @FaithinBones
                              It's terrible isn't it? So many gruesome diseases we can prevent with so little risk, and yet here we are with polio on the rise, measles on the rise...
                              I hope it's not diptheria next- that one has a much higher death rate than polio. It appears in my kids family tree, as well as on a sad number of gravestones in cemeteries around the country
                              @thepoliticalcat @bicmay

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                              @RedRobyn @FaithinBones @bicmay That's why I often feel being alive today is a miracle for me. I was born shortly after the war ended, but food and water were still rationed, and there weren't many houses because so many had been bombed. And sickness and death were everywhere. People alive today have no idea how bad it was.

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                              • thepoliticalcat@mastodon.socialT thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social

                                @PamelaBarroway @bicmay @MissConstrue I was born in the early 1950s, and we didn't have most of the vaccines we have nowadays. I had classmates who never came back to class bc they were in an iron lung for life after the last polio epidemic. Or had passed on. We had yearly epidemics of whooping cough, diphtheria, cholera, malaria, measles, mumps, and rubella (also known as German measles, back then). I was SO GRATEFUL when vaccines arrived!

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                                @thepoliticalcat @bicmay @MissConstrue Same. I made darn sure my son, born in 2007, received every vaccine on the schedule.

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                                • pamelabarroway@mstdn.socialP pamelabarroway@mstdn.social

                                  @thepoliticalcat @bicmay @MissConstrue Same. I made darn sure my son, born in 2007, received every vaccine on the schedule.

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                                  @PamelaBarroway @bicmay @MissConstrue We have these crunchy granola Momsters in CA who think it's better to throw "measles parties" so kids can trade germs for immunity. Now their counterparts in Utah are crying, "If we'd known it was so dangerous we would have vaxxed the kids!" How do we get these people to listen?

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