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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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    so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

    dasgrueneblatt@wien.rocksD srazkvt@tech.lgbtS deshipu@fosstodon.orgD d_rift@beige.partyD tempusfelix@wehavecookies.socialT 19 Replies Last reply
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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

      dasgrueneblatt@wien.rocksD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @eniko 💚

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

        srazkvt@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @eniko i think it'd be saying a lot of things if people don't

        basically tells governments "violate my privacy i don't care"

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

          deshipu@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @eniko A lot of things happening recently make me feel that way. One hope that I have is that the US can no longer effectively make EU adopt the same rules by threatening it with tariffs, like they always did before. So there is hoping that it will pass eventually.

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          • deshipu@fosstodon.orgD deshipu@fosstodon.org

            @eniko A lot of things happening recently make me feel that way. One hope that I have is that the US can no longer effectively make EU adopt the same rules by threatening it with tariffs, like they always did before. So there is hoping that it will pass eventually.

            eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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            @deshipu except EU is going all in on age verification as well

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

              d_rift@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @eniko It moves my hope. But as my hope gets shoved into more and more niche possible futures... I'd feel foolish not to notice that I'm taking hope as a given without calculating the odds of constraint.

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

                tempusfelix@wehavecookies.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @eniko

                Yup. With you there. Tell us your government name! Give us your details so we can control you! No. I dissent. But dissent means withdrawing from communities I enjoy. Bastards. Get gritty.

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

                  resl@mas.toR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @eniko Yes but it also just makes me want to organize and find ways to fix things. It angers me and kind of urges me on to try harder to organize with those who are willing to fight this stuff as a team. Do you know May First Movement Technology?

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

                    lighttheunicorn@lighttheunicorn.horseL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @eniko Yeah, honestly. Feels like things are constantly trying to hit a new low every other day.

                    Not loosing hope, though. And trying to maintain other methods of contact bypassing mainstream web services where possible.

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      @deshipu except EU is going all in on age verification as well

                      deshipu@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @eniko But they have to do it in the open, not in a secret trade deal like before.

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

                        bx@tiny.tilde.websiteB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @eniko yuuupp, i honestly try not to think about it too hard, i at least get a bit of hope from gur green party here (uk) winning local elections more and more often,
                        ....but i would probably just leave half gur internet before i provided my id to some datathief

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

                          sinvega@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @eniko big time

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

                            lezliz@mas.toL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @eniko At least the EU is working on an app that would let you verify your age anonymously. I still have other concerns about age verification, but at least this would eliminate the by far biggest one of mine.

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

                              bovaz@misskey.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place It makes me think I want to stay in tech just long enough to be able to buy the small patch of land I see from my window, then grow food there.
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                              • lezliz@mas.toL lezliz@mas.to

                                @eniko At least the EU is working on an app that would let you verify your age anonymously. I still have other concerns about age verification, but at least this would eliminate the by far biggest one of mine.

                                leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @LezLiz for me the problem is that they then can define what needs age verification, as you can already see in the UK: information about contraceptives, sexual assault, sexuality and gender identity, sorry teenager. You need to be a certain age to get information about those. No you can't join a community that would explain these things to you, you're too young. You have to ask your conservative parents about those things first, they'll probably take you to church for it.

                                @eniko

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                                • resl@mas.toR resl@mas.to

                                  @eniko Yes but it also just makes me want to organize and find ways to fix things. It angers me and kind of urges me on to try harder to organize with those who are willing to fight this stuff as a team. Do you know May First Movement Technology?

                                  eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @resl I don't. Whats that?

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                                  • deshipu@fosstodon.orgD deshipu@fosstodon.org

                                    @eniko But they have to do it in the open, not in a secret trade deal like before.

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                                    @deshipu @eniko I dunno if "this was officially approved by all institutions so it is perfectly legal in the current system" makes me feel better than "this is shady af and might actually be overturned some day". Yes, the courts may overturn it here but then they will try again next year. They do this for 20 years now with data retention and it makes you feel, well, not good.

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

                                      mrnnki@problemeowtic.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      where I live is working on a bill rn and in the process of finding its current text, I found a couple of its drafts. You can literally watch it get stricter, less privacy preserving, and require more retention of data from draft to draft. It sucks so hard

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                                      • leberschnitzel@existiert.chL leberschnitzel@existiert.ch

                                        @LezLiz for me the problem is that they then can define what needs age verification, as you can already see in the UK: information about contraceptives, sexual assault, sexuality and gender identity, sorry teenager. You need to be a certain age to get information about those. No you can't join a community that would explain these things to you, you're too young. You have to ask your conservative parents about those things first, they'll probably take you to church for it.

                                        @eniko

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                                        @leberschnitzel Yeah, that is still a concern, even though I'd be angry to the government about that, not age verification.

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          so like. does all the age verification bs make anyone else feel depressed? cause it makes me feel depressed. it makes me want to withdraw from the online world and computing altogether, to be honest, even though i can't actually afford to do that

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                                          @eniko If it comes down to it, I guess I'll be kicked off the web, or maybe even entire OSs if I live somewhere that implements that kind of policy.

                                          Said I would never use Web DRM when that happened and I kept my word to this day. Never once used it all those years, so I'm already kicked off the sites that require it (Netflix, Spotify, etc).

                                          But I'm still hopeful that even if the web is closed down, something else will take its place for me, perhaps even something that doesn't exist yet.

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