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  • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

    Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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    @marleenstikker

    Proton's marketing budget just got slashed.

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    • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

      Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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      @marleenstikker

      But we (the Netherlands) still store our data on servers of Amazon and Microsoft. If the Orange dictator gets mad he can order these companies to block all data. We are só screwed. And so stupid!

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        @tagomago @marleenstikker you can set Signal messages to expire (and pick a length)

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        @_elena @marleenstikker Oh, right, is that it, then... I thought it would be something fancier. (-:

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        • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

          Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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          @marleenstikker gym jordan should stop raping kids

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          • burnoutqueen@todon.nlB burnoutqueen@todon.nl

            @marleenstikker gym jordan should stop raping kids

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            @burnoutqueen@todon.nl @marleenstikker@waag.social I'm certain he would argue that that would impinge on his "rights of association" or something..

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            • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

              Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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              @marleenstikker Dear @EUCommission, this will be the last wake up call you get. You need to get rid off any American technology dependency by yesteryear!
              Now is the time to start investing in open source technology. Otherwise US big tech will cut your throat while you're still alive.

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              • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                @marleenstikker I can't even fake being surprised…

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                • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

                  @altim @marleenstikker

                  And send the American troops home - No Trojan horses in Europe. Europe has the power, only our politicians don't know that yet.

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                  @fenixmaster @altim @marleenstikker hand over the stationed B61-8 to the IAEA in Vienna for final dispensation.

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                  • tagomago@mastodon.socialT tagomago@mastodon.social

                    @_elena @marleenstikker Oh, right, is that it, then... I thought it would be something fancier. (-:

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                    @tagomago @_elena @marleenstikker also that doesn't help when @signalapp and it's supplier, #Amazon #aws, are all falling.under #CloudAct.

                    • If #Signal was secure, @Mer__edith would be in jail and it's service would've been shutdown like #EncroChat a long time ago!
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                    • erika@ruhr.socialE erika@ruhr.social

                      @marleenstikker So, if I get it right, the mentioned tech companies have to open up all correspondence they've had with EU officials? That sounds insane.

                      @vicgrinberg

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                      @Erika @marleenstikker @vicgrinberg worse:

                      They've to hand over anything they ever communicated on them…

                      • Like someone entering the #USA is getting searched…

                      Goddamn #CyberImperialists!
                      https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/116247197635077689

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                      • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                        Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                        @marleenstikker Slightly confusing, as using secure communications between EU officials makes sense, but this subpoena is about communications with EU officials.

                        Makes no sense to use secure communications there.

                        The fact these companies cannot be trusted to keep anything handled by them secret, is another problem all together.

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                        • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                          Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                          @marleenstikker the silver lining is that with the next US elections being in the remote future, EU politicos can no longer revert to their habitual stupor, in the hope of some "reversion to normal" that will relieve them of actually having to act with intelligence and purpose.

                          A gross strategic miscalculation around all things digital that spans decades is now extracting its toll. Nothing to do but build a real alternative, whatever it takes.

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                          • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                            Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                            @marleenstikker Although it prompted a sharp intake of breath when I read the article this action is not surprising in the context of the classified documents that Edward Snowden made public in 2013.

                            What is surprising is that the US authorities have made these requests public as the Snowden leaks showed that such demands for information were handled by secret courts.

                            It seems to me that this is designed to make the EU in general and individual EU officials feel as uncomfortable as possible.

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                            • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                              @marleenstikker Although it prompted a sharp intake of breath when I read the article this action is not surprising in the context of the classified documents that Edward Snowden made public in 2013.

                              What is surprising is that the US authorities have made these requests public as the Snowden leaks showed that such demands for information were handled by secret courts.

                              It seems to me that this is designed to make the EU in general and individual EU officials feel as uncomfortable as possible.

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                              @the_wub Exactly what I was thinking. Why make a press release about this? It doesn't make any sense.

                              @marleenstikker

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                              • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                                Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                                @marleenstikker And that will be only the beginning ...

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  @marleenstikker what shocks me is that they qualify the European Commission and European member states as "foreign censors" (WHAAAAAT)?

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                                  @_elena @marleenstikker These guys are very big on DARVO as theatre to their base.

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                                  • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                                    Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                                    @marleenstikker Amazing, I bet nobody in the eu saw this coming….
                                    Well it’s time for the eu orgs to switch to eu based tools.

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                                    • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                                      Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                                      @marleenstikker yet another reason for #DataSovereignty - get a move on @EUCommission !

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                                      • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                                        @marleenstikker Slightly confusing, as using secure communications between EU officials makes sense, but this subpoena is about communications with EU officials.

                                        Makes no sense to use secure communications there.

                                        The fact these companies cannot be trusted to keep anything handled by them secret, is another problem all together.

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                                        @avuko @marleenstikker But this is a press release, so either it suggests the technology companies were subpoenaed to produce the internal communications sbetween EU officials (which would be scandalous, and if things like this are going on, it would be bizarre to put it in a press release), or it is to paint a propagandistic picture of EU officials trying to hide ?

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                                        • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                                          Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                                          @marleenstikker as a European, I'd love to see this level of transparency. But I don't love what orange man will probably do with the information.

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