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  • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

    Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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    @marleenstikker Slightly confusing, as using secure communications between EU officials makes sense, but this subpoena is about communications with EU officials.

    Makes no sense to use secure communications there.

    The fact these companies cannot be trusted to keep anything handled by them secret, is another problem all together.

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    • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

      Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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      @marleenstikker the silver lining is that with the next US elections being in the remote future, EU politicos can no longer revert to their habitual stupor, in the hope of some "reversion to normal" that will relieve them of actually having to act with intelligence and purpose.

      A gross strategic miscalculation around all things digital that spans decades is now extracting its toll. Nothing to do but build a real alternative, whatever it takes.

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      • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

        Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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        #42

        @marleenstikker Although it prompted a sharp intake of breath when I read the article this action is not surprising in the context of the classified documents that Edward Snowden made public in 2013.

        What is surprising is that the US authorities have made these requests public as the Snowden leaks showed that such demands for information were handled by secret courts.

        It seems to me that this is designed to make the EU in general and individual EU officials feel as uncomfortable as possible.

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        • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

          @marleenstikker Although it prompted a sharp intake of breath when I read the article this action is not surprising in the context of the classified documents that Edward Snowden made public in 2013.

          What is surprising is that the US authorities have made these requests public as the Snowden leaks showed that such demands for information were handled by secret courts.

          It seems to me that this is designed to make the EU in general and individual EU officials feel as uncomfortable as possible.

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          @the_wub Exactly what I was thinking. Why make a press release about this? It doesn't make any sense.

          @marleenstikker

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          • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

            Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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            @marleenstikker And that will be only the beginning ...

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              @marleenstikker what shocks me is that they qualify the European Commission and European member states as "foreign censors" (WHAAAAAT)?

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              @_elena @marleenstikker These guys are very big on DARVO as theatre to their base.

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              • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                @marleenstikker Amazing, I bet nobody in the eu saw this coming….
                Well it’s time for the eu orgs to switch to eu based tools.

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                • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                  Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                  @marleenstikker yet another reason for #DataSovereignty - get a move on @EUCommission !

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                  • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                    @marleenstikker Slightly confusing, as using secure communications between EU officials makes sense, but this subpoena is about communications with EU officials.

                    Makes no sense to use secure communications there.

                    The fact these companies cannot be trusted to keep anything handled by them secret, is another problem all together.

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                    @avuko @marleenstikker But this is a press release, so either it suggests the technology companies were subpoenaed to produce the internal communications sbetween EU officials (which would be scandalous, and if things like this are going on, it would be bizarre to put it in a press release), or it is to paint a propagandistic picture of EU officials trying to hide ?

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                    • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                      Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                      @marleenstikker as a European, I'd love to see this level of transparency. But I don't love what orange man will probably do with the information.

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                      • tagomago@mastodon.socialT tagomago@mastodon.social

                        @_elena @marleenstikker Oh, right, is that it, then... I thought it would be something fancier. (-:

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                        @tagomago @_elena @marleenstikker it should be @delta

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                        • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                          Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                          @marleenstikker Der Faschistenstaat schreitet voran.

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                          • marleenstikker@waag.socialM marleenstikker@waag.social

                            Incredible. “US has subpoenaed all tech companies to hand over all messages with EU officials that enforce the DSA” https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/chairman-jordan-probes-eu-bureaucrats-hiding-efforts-censor-american-speech

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                            @marleenstikker Zeg nou nooit meer dat je niet gewaarschuwd was. #linux #openoffice #mastodon #firefox #duckduckgo

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                            • ruisan@masto.esR ruisan@masto.es

                              @tagomago @_elena @marleenstikker it should be @delta

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                              @ruisan @tagomago @marleenstikker I LOVE @delta 🙌

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                              • joost_rekveld@assemblag.esJ joost_rekveld@assemblag.es

                                @avuko @marleenstikker But this is a press release, so either it suggests the technology companies were subpoenaed to produce the internal communications sbetween EU officials (which would be scandalous, and if things like this are going on, it would be bizarre to put it in a press release), or it is to paint a propagandistic picture of EU officials trying to hide ?

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                                @joost_rekveld @marleenstikker

                                "Rather than reconsidering its censorship laws and changing its attitude towards free speech, the European Commission seems to be doubling down on its censorship efforts by attempting to hide them from the public.7" 1

                                7: Eliza Gkritsi, EU tech enforcer tells officials not to be scared by US threats, POLITICO (Feb. 16, 2026). 2

                                So this is,

                                1. Propaganda and posturing. In the second sentence to all parties, they frame "the European Commission and European Union (EU) Member States" as "foreign censors".

                                2. "Ill doers are ill deemers", or as we say in Dutch: "Zo de waard is, vertrouwd hij zijn gasten". Jordan et al know how they scheme in secrecy with their US company collaborators, so they immediately assume EU officials are doing the same.

                                1 ) https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2026-03-16-jdj-to-alphabet-pichai-re-preservation.pdf

                                2 ) Referencing https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-tech-enforcer-tells-officials-civil-society-not-to-be-scared-after-us-threats/

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